How much can a Segway pull/push?

Blinky · 01-12-2003, 03:40 AM

We all know how much weight and payload a Segway HT (I and E series) can handle, but does anyone know what amount of weight the Segway can lug from one place to another.

Would the battery usage would go up?

Would the physics change on the Segway if there is an load being pulled by the Segway affect its stopping distance?

Blinky · 01-12-2003, 03:42 AM

Since we are on the subject, I had changed the title.

How much force does the base of the Segway produce?

pam · 01-12-2003, 09:41 AM

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quote:Originally posted by Blinky

We all know how much weight and payload a Segway HT (I and E series) can handle, but does anyone know what amount of weight the Segway can lug from one place to another.

Would the battery usage would go up?

Would the physics change on the Segway if there is an load being pulled by the Segway affect its stopping distance?

Blinky, all I can tell you is what was told me at our training. The 250 lb weight limit on the i is because they had to be able to guarantee that the unit would stop in a specific distance, and at weights above 250, they could not guarantee that it would stop in that distance (I wish I could remember who they had to guarantee it to - maybe when working on the legislation issues - I remember it as being governmental) I remember the conversation clearly because I was on my Segway going over the "hill" obstacle and it was brought up when coming down over the obstacle as I was learning how to control my downward speed and how to stop and stand still on the downward side. - And yes, more weight does mean more battery useage, as do "road conditions" affect battery useage, and I think also extreme cold affects battery useage.
Pam

Brooster · 01-12-2003, 01:30 PM

Hi Blinky, according to the "Interact with Segway" area on Segway LLC's Web site (if you click on "motors"), the two motors have been tested to a power level of two horsepower.

Brooster

hodgepoj · 01-12-2003, 01:38 PM

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quote:Originally posted by Blinky

We all know how much weight and payload a Segway HT (I and E series) can handle, but does anyone know what amount of weight the Segway can lug from one place to another.

Would the battery usage would go up?

Yes. Pulling a trailer or pushing a header would require more torque from the drive motors. This would draw more current from the batteries and discharge them more quickly.

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Would the physics change on the Segway if there is an load being pulled by the Segway affect its stopping distance?

As with any vehicle, the greater the momentum, the farther the stopping distance. Assume a 200-pound rider going 10 mph. The total moving mass would be 128 kilograms and the momentum would be 572 kg-m/s. Pulling a 100-pound load would increase the momentum by 35%. If the motors supplied the same braking torque with and without the trailer and if the friction between tires and road surface were the same, the stopping distance would increase by 35%.

hodgepoj

RedKey · 01-13-2003, 01:53 AM

Although not a released product (and who knows, it may never be), Segway was developing a trailer (not powered) which looks very similar to a a garden tractor pulled behind a riding mower.
They don't publish this information anymore, but when they did, they spec'd this trailer to carry 300lbs. I'm sure this would only be for level ground (factories, airports, etc). On level ground, 300lbs of push/pull is reasonable.

Blinky · 01-13-2003, 02:33 AM

RedKey writes,

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quote:Although not a released product (and who knows, it may never be), Segway was developing a trailer (not powered) which looks very similar to a a garden tractor pulled behind a riding mower.
They don't publish this information anymore, but when they did, they spec'd this trailer to carry 300lbs. I'm sure this would only be for level ground (factories, airports, etc). On level ground, 300lbs of push/pull is reasonable.

300 pounds, great. People can come up with plenty of applications/accessories to add to the Segway. Looking forward to seeing those.

I remember the member Emanresu once talking about using his Segway for his business(gardening?). I wonder if he has made any attempts into finding out any more about this issue.

Alan Travis · 01-13-2003, 10:11 PM

Hello RedKey,

Do you recall where the pull-point was on the SEGWAY?

Thanks,....Alan Travis

GET A GARMIN or get lost!!

RedKey · 01-13-2003, 10:58 PM

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quote:Originally posted by Alan Travis

Do you recall where the pull-point was on the SEGWAY?

I've seen the cart only in Segway videos but never close-up or in in person.

Red

emanresu · 01-14-2003, 08:58 AM

I'm waiting for more info before I put much hope on using my Seg as a utility vehicle in Landscaping. I envision it mostly being used by me to move from place to place for supervision of employees. I also am excited about the possibility of using it as a low-cost way to deliver fliers to homes in the neighborhoods we are working in. This may be it's best use- I can probably cover a house a minute, at least 40 an hour. I'll keep everyone "posted".

01-12-2003, 03:40 AM	#1
Blinky Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Matawan, New Jersey Posts: 2,114	How much can a Segway pull/push? We all know how much weight and payload a Segway HT (I and E series) can handle, but does anyone know what amount of weight the Segway can lug from one place to another. Would the battery usage would go up? Would the physics change on the Segway if there is an load being pulled by the Segway affect its stopping distance?

01-12-2003, 03:42 AM	#2
Blinky Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Matawan, New Jersey Posts: 2,114	Since we are on the subject, I had changed the title. How much force does the base of the Segway produce?

01-12-2003, 01:30 PM	#4
Brooster Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,050	Hi Blinky, according to the "Interact with Segway" area on Segway LLC's Web site (if you click on "motors"), the two motors have been tested to a power level of two horsepower. Brooster

01-13-2003, 01:53 AM	#6
RedKey Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alexandria, VA, USA. Posts: 184	Although not a released product (and who knows, it may never be), Segway was developing a trailer (not powered) which looks very similar to a a garden tractor pulled behind a riding mower. They don't publish this information anymore, but when they did, they spec'd this trailer to carry 300lbs. I'm sure this would only be for level ground (factories, airports, etc). On level ground, 300lbs of push/pull is reasonable.

01-13-2003, 10:11 PM	#8
Alan Travis Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PHOENIX, ARIZONA, . Posts: 90	Hello RedKey, Do you recall where the pull-point was on the SEGWAY? Thanks,....Alan Travis GET A GARMIN or get lost!!

01-14-2003, 08:58 AM	#10
emanresu Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: , TN, . Posts: 373	I'm waiting for more info before I put much hope on using my Seg as a utility vehicle in Landscaping. I envision it mostly being used by me to move from place to place for supervision of employees. I also am excited about the possibility of using it as a low-cost way to deliver fliers to homes in the neighborhoods we are working in. This may be it's best use- I can probably cover a house a minute, at least 40 an hour. I'll keep everyone "posted".

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