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I'm not saying bicycles are bad by any means, and of course, there are also road bikes, and as you pointed out, electric bikes. I also forgot to mention, both are exposed to the elements, and therefore may not be suited for ice or snow. |
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I have many, many years on bikes, and many tens of thousands of miles on them mostly on roads. My opinion is not that a bike is any more dangerous when in a car accident, than a segway. I have no stats other than my own personal experience. I was once hit head on by a car in the wrong travel lane (he was passing another car) and I was high enough on my Italia that I was able effectively vault over the car. I got hurt pretty bad, but head on at 50 mph (his speed and mine) and I survived it. My bike not only went thru his radiator, but into the block of his engine. I cannot imagine that same accident being survivable on a segway.
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I've been hurt badly on both. You're lucky to be alive, also, that's one tank of a bicycle! |
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Much of the bike was simply gone, unfindable. It acted much more like a missile than a tank.
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Another difference is that Segways don't have the oily chain, chainrings, spokes, and other sharp or pinching parts bikes have that can cause problems in an encounter with a pedestrian.
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Your conclusions are exactly those expressed by Dean Kamen in 2002. Later Kamen looked to Transportation Alternatives (the biggest public transit, pedestrian & bicycle advocacy group in NYC) for Segway support and was given the cold shoulder. T.A. went on to nurture the Segway unfriendly atmosphere in NYC. Give it up. You're just shooting yourself in the foot.
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I am surprised at you. In the first quoted post above, you were clearly making a snide remark about my saying the segway problem in NYC was political and not merit based. In the 2nd quoted post, you admit exactly what I said. It is about territory and politics, not about the merits of the individual conveyances. You must be slipping. You don't usually step on your own junk so quickly.
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lilnyc,
I'll second that. The CitiBikes' racks are really big (dozens of bikes wide) and when I see them I think "why don't we have the same thing for Segways?" The racks even have charging built into them, presumably for charging the blinking headlights/taillights. With thousands of people riding bikes in Manhattan's "lanes are just recommendations" traffic, sans helmets, Segways seem like a no-brainer alternative. I do see people riding Segway PTs every once in a while in the city, but it makes me sad to leave mine at home Chris |
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