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Old 08-20-2018, 10:41 AM   #1
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Hi All,
My name is Mike and I just picked up a used Segway XT. I am located near Watkins Glen, NY. The XT did not come with batteries so I need help. I would like to test the XT somehow before spending a ton of money on batteries only to find out more is wrong. Is the anyone in NY state or PA that would be willing to put their batteries on my XT to see if it works? Is there another way to test it?

Do I need li ion batteries for the XT or will it run on the older nimh packs? I see some marginal nimh packs on eBay cheap and if it does work I am up to the challenge of setting up Lipo to run it with the nimh cases.

Thanks in advance Folks!

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Old 08-27-2018, 10:55 PM   #2
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I talked to Rick Bennett and he was a great help. I cannot use the nimh packs with my XT due to programming differences. I did, however, find out that there is absolutely ZERO risk of damaging someoneís batteries by trying them on my Segway.

I am willing to travel a ways to find out if this machine will run before I spend 1500 bucks on new batteries. I am at 14865. Is there anyone willing to help out with this?

Thanks All,

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Old 08-28-2018, 01:25 AM   #3
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I have a Generation 2 i2 With recently rebuilt batteries. If they will work for your test and you're sure the test won't harm my batteries, send me a PM and we can set something up.
I'm in Breinigsville Pa., 3 hrs 29 min/207 miles south of you.
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:41 AM   #4
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You may fit either NiMH or Li-ion to an XT.

They all came originally from the factory with Li-ion, for range reasons.
However they will function with NiMH batteries, just with a lesser range.

Use low tire pressures on loose sand, but a bit higher pressures are fine on a sidewalk etc, and you will dramatically improve the range.

Good luck
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:18 PM   #5
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I have a Generation 2 i2 With recently rebuilt batteries. If they will work for your test and you're sure the test won't harm my batteries, send me a PM and we can set something up.
I'm in Breinigsville Pa., 3 hrs 29 min/207 miles south of you.
Thank you. Rick says it canít hurt the batteries in any way. I would like to wait a bit and see if anyone closer happens to reply.

Thanks again, Mike
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Hi

You may fit either NiMH or Li-ion to an XT.

They all came originally from the factory with Li-ion, for range reasons.
However they will function with NiMH batteries, just with a lesser range.

Use low tire pressures on loose sand, but a bit higher pressures are fine on a sidewalk etc, and you will dramatically improve the range.

Good luck
Interesting info. I knew about tire pressures. I am an avid off-roader so thatís second nature to me.

Rick Bennett says the NIMH batteries wonít work. Not trying to start an argument or anything, just trying to find out for sure.

If i can use NiMh packs to test I will take them apart and run LiPo like my ebike to rebuild them.

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Old 08-29-2018, 08:24 AM   #7
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Rick is very experienced, and very knowledgeable.
However he is mistaken on this item.

I have used NiMH batteries on XT machines.

I cannot suggest too strongly, do not mess with batteries unless you really know what you are doing.
Li-Po cells can burn and burn badly if not handled properly.
Heck they have even been known to burn when handled properly.

Seriously make sure your fire insurance is up to date and your health insurance too.

Perhaps contact MTO if you want to re-cell a NiMH pack.
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Old 08-29-2018, 11:29 AM   #8
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Rick is very experienced, and very knowledgeable.
However he is mistaken on this item.

I have used NiMH batteries on XT machines.

I cannot suggest too strongly, do not mess with batteries unless you really know what you are doing.
Li-Po cells can burn and burn badly if not handled properly.
Heck they have even been known to burn when handled properly.

Seriously make sure your fire insurance is up to date and your health insurance too.

Perhaps contact MTO if you want to re-cell a NiMH pack.
That is awesome news! Thank you!

I do have experience with Lipo batteries with my ebikes. My last bike ran a 14s2P pack for a total of 32ah. I read about someone using the NiMh packs with small LiPo packs successfully so I would like to take that one step further and put a larger ah pack in my backpack for longer range and ease of remote charging with my balance charger.

About the insurance.....I only work with LiPo outside of my home and they are stored properly in either a toaster oven or a Nomex lined battery bag.

It may be a bit redneck but I could easily just run a power inverter from my LiPo pack to charge the NiMh Segway packs on the machine wherever I end up. I know, conversion losses and extra weight. But it would be a cheap trial.

I wonder if a Segway will operate while the charger is plugged in?????

Thanks!

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I wonder if a Segway will operate while the charger is plugged in?????
No, the software recognizes the charging process, and will not start.

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Old 08-30-2018, 10:50 AM   #10
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No, the software recognizes the charging process, and will not start.

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Thank you. That is what I assumed. Will the NiMh batteries charge properly on an XT?

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