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Old 10-15-2002, 02:51 AM   #1
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Does anyone ever look beyond the Segway-HT? It is probably premature to suggest, but will Segway be the company to start the trend of other companies going the 'non-pollutant' way.

I am not suggesting that the same technology that is used in the Segway-HT should be used in everything. Shouldn't the same approach that Dean Kamen took into building this thing as well as his other inventions be utilized for all future ideas?
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Does anyone ever look beyond the Segway-HT? It is probably premature to suggest, but will Segway be the company to start the trend of other companies going the 'non-pollutant' way.

I am not suggesting that the same technology that is used in the Segway-HT should be used in everything. Shouldn't the same approach that Dean Kamen took into building this thing as well as his other inventions be utilized for all future ideas?
Please explain what 'approach' you are talking about? Kamen is hardly the first person to produce clean , non-pollutant transportation.
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Old 10-15-2002, 09:58 AM   #3
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Thanks JohnM, your right. Dean Kamen is not the first person to produce clean transportation. Sorry for inferring that.

The approach I mean is to take a problem and to solve it from scratch. He didn't really use much of anybody else's idea's to make the Segway-HT.

Are car makers going to take an old design and try to improve it. For example automobiles are forever changing year to year, but why must they evolve into a cleaner product. Who is to say that future of transportation has to be a by product of an evolution of an automobile.

We need more fresh thinkers like Dean Kamen. He didn't make the Segway-HT(as far as we know) originally running gasoline. He solved his problem ignoring past ideas.

Sorry to be so general, but am in a rush to write this,
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The approach I mean is to take a problem and to solve it from scratch. He didn't really use much of anybody else's idea's to make the Segway-HT.
Hardly from scratch. Kamen already had the core technology from his IBOT. The problem he was approaching was how to make a bundle of money with a really neat piece of engineering developed for a limited market product. He just applied that technology to a device for the mass market. Kamen hardly ignored past ideas. Nothing wrong with building off your earlier successes.
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When the stirling comes out, it may have a bigger impact on the "non-pollutant" trend then Segay. I assume that the stirling will be usefull to charge up anything using batteries. For example, electric cars might do with fewer batteries if charged by stirlings and go a lot further.
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When the stirling comes out, it may have a bigger impact on the "non-pollutant" trend then Segay. I assume that the stirling will be usefull to charge up anything using batteries. For example, electric cars might do with fewer batteries if charged by stirlings and go a lot further.
Doesn't it all depend on what you're using to power it?

I love the smell of burning dung in the morning. It smells like ... progress!
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[quote]quoteoesn't it all depend on what you're using to power it?

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It also depends on how much energy u get out of your fuel source and how much u pollute.
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Your right, but its still his own. I'm not saying he doesn't apply his new ideas to old ones to make them better. I've never seen anything like the Segway-HT before.
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There is no current such thing as this "Clean Transportation" you speak of...

We are merely shifting the pollution load elsewhere. Where to? Segways consume electricity. Where is electricity generated? Nuclear waste-creating power plants. Fossil fuel-burning power plants. Natural power (solar, wind, hydroelectric) only consists of a small percentage of the American power consumption.

What needs to be done is clean up current methods of transportation. Automobiles can be made more efficient. Burn cleaner. Then we should be working on alternate energy development.
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While there is a shifting of pollution as you describe, it also results in a decrease in pollution per given unit of power generated. It is easier to control particulate and gaseous discharges in a central location than in small individual locations. The main problem with centralized power generation is the huge losses in power lines on the way to the consumer.

Further cleaning up fossil fuel burning automobile exhaust has gone about as far as it can go. Under some situations now, cars expel cleaner air than than take in.

Alternative "clean" energy sources are going to have to replace fossil fuel if they are going to gain further in eliminating air pollution.
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