First human clone?

ftropea · 12-27-2002, 05:11 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/12/27...ing/index.html

Assuming they did it, did you catch what's next on the agenda for the scientists making the claim?

"Rael says the Raelians eventually want to learn how to clone an adult and then "transfer the brain to the clone." Boisselier said she hopes to one day open cloning clinics on each continent to help infertile couples have families."

It may seem impossible today, but someone is going to do it one of these days. I'd like to hear how they're going to convince the clone human to give up their life for that of their DNA donor or "parent."

Clones are going to have human rights too...

Regards,

Frank A. Tropea

don c. · 12-28-2002, 12:16 AM

Because the media and the scientific community haven't always provided sufficient information on what cloning is, and how it works, a popular misconception remains that your clone equals another you, in mind and spirit as well as body. This has apparently already been exploited by firms trying to clone pets in order to keep Fido 'alive' as long as his owners.

In spite of the movie "The Boys From Brazil", your clone won't carry your personality, nor your identity. Neither can it, in spite of Raelian rhetoric, carry you forth into immortality. Just a few of the things that craft an individual are, besides her genetic makeup: Her environment, diet, nurturing, society, and specific life experiences. As entertaining as the idea may be that Hitler, Kennedy, or you, might be replicated through cloning, it belongs in the same realm of fiction as Uri Geller's spoon bending and the popular "Crossing Over" tv show (until conclusive and repeatable evidence is gained using proven scientific methods).

If the 'Raelians' are seriously proposing transplanting the brain of Clone-Mama into the skull of Clone-Baby, they are dancing well outside the boundaries of established medical science, not to mention child abuse/murder.

Ignore them, and don't drink the Kool-Aid....

"Truly, that which makes me believe there is no inhabitant on this sphere, is that it seems to me no sensible being would be willing to live here."

"Well, then!", said Micromegas, "perhaps the beings that inhabit it do not possess good sense."

One alien to another, on approaching the Earth, in VOLTAIRE'S Micromegas: A Philosophical History (1752)

12-27-2002, 05:11 PM	#1
ftropea Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA. Posts: 1,778	First human clone? http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/12/27...ing/index.html Assuming they did it, did you catch what's next on the agenda for the scientists making the claim? "Rael says the Raelians eventually want to learn how to clone an adult and then "transfer the brain to the clone." Boisselier said she hopes to one day open cloning clinics on each continent to help infertile couples have families." It may seem impossible today, but someone is going to do it one of these days. I'd like to hear how they're going to convince the clone human to give up their life for that of their DNA donor or "parent." Clones are going to have human rights too... Regards, Frank A. Tropea

12-28-2002, 12:16 AM	#2
don c. Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: , , . Posts: 61	Because the media and the scientific community haven't always provided sufficient information on what cloning is, and how it works, a popular misconception remains that your clone equals another you, in mind and spirit as well as body. This has apparently already been exploited by firms trying to clone pets in order to keep Fido 'alive' as long as his owners. In spite of the movie "The Boys From Brazil", your clone won't carry your personality, nor your identity. Neither can it, in spite of Raelian rhetoric, carry you forth into immortality. Just a few of the things that craft an individual are, besides her genetic makeup: Her environment, diet, nurturing, society, and specific life experiences. As entertaining as the idea may be that Hitler, Kennedy, or you, might be replicated through cloning, it belongs in the same realm of fiction as Uri Geller's spoon bending and the popular "Crossing Over" tv show (until conclusive and repeatable evidence is gained using proven scientific methods). If the 'Raelians' are seriously proposing transplanting the brain of Clone-Mama into the skull of Clone-Baby, they are dancing well outside the boundaries of established medical science, not to mention child abuse/murder. Ignore them, and don't drink the Kool-Aid.... "Truly, that which makes me believe there is no inhabitant on this sphere, is that it seems to me no sensible being would be willing to live here." "Well, then!", said Micromegas, "perhaps the beings that inhabit it do not possess good sense." One alien to another, on approaching the Earth, in VOLTAIRE'S Micromegas: A Philosophical History (1752)

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