Another German kickstand option

CovRob · 01-14-2009, 04:50 PM

I saw this on another forum and though it worth sharing here

"SEGsuperstand is the state of the art kickstand made in Germany for SEGWAY. Full stainless steel/aluminium constrution. The single one with "automatic folding in feature" worldwide. Easy to mount, super to use. Once you got it, never you accept missing it.

See details www.segsuperstand.de or www.segsuperstand.com "

I've not long spoken to the guy in Germany who invented and is manufacturing these. He is producing a version for both the the i2 and the x2. He went to great lengths to detail the quality of the work and materials, sourcing some components from the top-end automotive industry suppliers as well as complying with legislation regarding kickstands on motorcycles and mopeds being required to either automatically retract or operate a "kill switch" for the engine when a rider prepares to ride off. In the case of a Segway, which is classified under their moped legislation, he arranges it so that when the Segway platform is horizontal enough to change from a red to a green led to allow balance mode to be activated the kickstand retracts automatically.

Retail price is currently planned to be €180 (approx $240 or £163 dependent upon prevailing exchange rates) plus shipping.

It's pricey, but appears to be well engineered and the inventor is keen to emphasise that his aim was to match the quality and standards of the Segway itself (rather than what INC produced as a kickstand!).

bentbiker · 01-14-2009, 05:03 PM

Thanks for the post. Appears to be really well engineered. I know the rider descended some shallow steps, but the rear "pedal" sticks out far enough that I would want to see if it really clears a tall step/curb. Also, I wonder why he chose to have it lean so far forward on the stand -- it makes the LSF really stick out in front.

budsiskos · 01-14-2009, 05:41 PM

the only downside is that if someone messes with the seg and it goes up, the seg will fall over

jkzulu · 01-14-2009, 05:54 PM

Hi fellows,

special thanks to Rob, I did not expected to have the details of our SEGsuperstand so fast posted in here. You reported very well about our talks.

For any kind of questions, please feel invited to contact me during that initial phase, bringing the product to the market.

Pricewise it is planned to go in USD zone 1:1 with the Euro price, as vice versa it is the same with the SEGWAY, means 180-200 USD listprice. A bit depending on shipping and vendor partners.

Us thats SEGWAY Darmstadt, Germany , KRAUSE Technology GmbH.

Contact me here or under [email protected]

I am happy to read your comments on our new product.

warm regards from Germany

Jens

CovRob · 01-31-2009, 09:16 AM

I went ahead and bought two of these - one for my i2 & one for my x2 (I also have the Funky-Move Custom kickstands on my tour x2's). First off, Jens is excellent to do business with and is really passionate about both the Segway and the quality of his work. The SEGsuperstand is very well constructed and very easy to fit. When fitted the profile matches that of the battery packs, so there is no reduction in ground clearance. The press pedal at the back does not extend beyond the tyre diameter, so it doesn't catch on obstacles when descending - I have taken my x2 over some pretty demanding terrain since fitting and the battery packs grounded before any contact with parts of the stand.

All in all, an excellent design, well engineered and very effective. It operates from the rear and automatically retracts when the platform is moved to the horizontal position before stepping on. This feature does mean the Segway leans forward when parked. One consequent restriction is that if a heavy load is in the handlebar bag it could tip forward...but that would need quite a few kilos.

In comparison to the Funky-Move kickstand? Better, but about 3 times the price. I have had Funky-Move kickstands bend when the Seg has taken a tumble. I had one shear off when a tourer tried to ride off with it down - (an exchange facility is offered at about half the price of new). Neither should happen with the SEGsuperstand.

Some on here have commented about all the kickstands on offer needing action from the front of the Seg before steping on at the rear - not so with this invention.

I like them.

Bob.Kerns · 01-31-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CovRob

Some on here have commented about all the kickstands on offer needing action from the front of the Seg before steping on at the rear - not so with this invention.

I like them.

Thanks for the report. This last point (quoted above) is one of the things I find most attractive about the design.

I find it fairly awkward to deploy and retract the front-mounted kickstand. It's one problem I don't see how to fix with things I have lying around the home!

bud01234 · 05-09-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CovRob

have had Funky-Move kickstands bend when the Seg has taken a tumble. I had one shear off when a tourer tried to ride off with it down - (an exchange facility is offered at about half the price of new).

Mine is sheared also- Can you point me in the direction to get info on how to exchange it??? I've been looking for a week but every site is in German and emails are not being answered. (probably don't understand english).

Thanks!
Bud

SEGsby · 02-28-2009, 11:26 PM

That's a fricken awesome kickstand!!!

And SOOO much better than the crappy Official one... Excellent work Jens! I want one!!!!

CovRob · 03-01-2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEGsby

... Excellent work Jens! I want one!!!!

order one here

Bob.Kerns · 03-01-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CovRob

order one here

I can't tell from that site whether they'll ship to the US.

I do see they offer an option to ship via email, no charge...

01-14-2009, 04:50 PM	#1
CovRob Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake District, England Posts: 549	Another German kickstand option I saw this on another forum and though it worth sharing here "SEGsuperstand is the state of the art kickstand made in Germany for SEGWAY. Full stainless steel/aluminium constrution. The single one with "automatic folding in feature" worldwide. Easy to mount, super to use. Once you got it, never you accept missing it. See details www.segsuperstand.de or www.segsuperstand.com " I've not long spoken to the guy in Germany who invented and is manufacturing these. He is producing a version for both the the i2 and the x2. He went to great lengths to detail the quality of the work and materials, sourcing some components from the top-end automotive industry suppliers as well as complying with legislation regarding kickstands on motorcycles and mopeds being required to either automatically retract or operate a "kill switch" for the engine when a rider prepares to ride off. In the case of a Segway, which is classified under their moped legislation, he arranges it so that when the Segway platform is horizontal enough to change from a red to a green led to allow balance mode to be activated the kickstand retracts automatically. Retail price is currently planned to be €180 (approx $240 or £163 dependent upon prevailing exchange rates) plus shipping. It's pricey, but appears to be well engineered and the inventor is keen to emphasise that his aim was to match the quality and standards of the Segway itself (rather than what INC produced as a kickstand!). __________________ Rob

01-14-2009, 05:03 PM	#2
bentbiker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,795	Thanks for the post. Appears to be really well engineered. I know the rider descended some shallow steps, but the rear "pedal" sticks out far enough that I would want to see if it really clears a tall step/curb. Also, I wonder why he chose to have it lean so far forward on the stand -- it makes the LSF really stick out in front. __________________ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ John Kuhn

01-14-2009, 05:54 PM	#4
jkzulu New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Germany - Darmstadt Posts: 8	SEGsuperstand thats us from Darmstadt/Germany Hi fellows, special thanks to Rob, I did not expected to have the details of our SEGsuperstand so fast posted in here. You reported very well about our talks. For any kind of questions, please feel invited to contact me during that initial phase, bringing the product to the market. Pricewise it is planned to go in USD zone 1:1 with the Euro price, as vice versa it is the same with the SEGWAY, means 180-200 USD listprice. A bit depending on shipping and vendor partners. Us thats SEGWAY Darmstadt, Germany , KRAUSE Technology GmbH. Contact me here or under [email protected] I am happy to read your comments on our new product. warm regards from Germany Jens

01-31-2009, 09:16 AM	#5
CovRob Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake District, England Posts: 549	SEGsuperstand in use! I went ahead and bought two of these - one for my i2 & one for my x2 (I also have the Funky-Move Custom kickstands on my tour x2's). First off, Jens is excellent to do business with and is really passionate about both the Segway and the quality of his work. The SEGsuperstand is very well constructed and very easy to fit. When fitted the profile matches that of the battery packs, so there is no reduction in ground clearance. The press pedal at the back does not extend beyond the tyre diameter, so it doesn't catch on obstacles when descending - I have taken my x2 over some pretty demanding terrain since fitting and the battery packs grounded before any contact with parts of the stand. All in all, an excellent design, well engineered and very effective. It operates from the rear and automatically retracts when the platform is moved to the horizontal position before stepping on. This feature does mean the Segway leans forward when parked. One consequent restriction is that if a heavy load is in the handlebar bag it could tip forward...but that would need quite a few kilos. In comparison to the Funky-Move kickstand? Better, but about 3 times the price. I have had Funky-Move kickstands bend when the Seg has taken a tumble. I had one shear off when a tourer tried to ride off with it down - (an exchange facility is offered at about half the price of new). Neither should happen with the SEGsuperstand. Some on here have commented about all the kickstands on offer needing action from the front of the Seg before steping on at the rear - not so with this invention. I like them. __________________ Rob

01-14-2009, 05:41 PM	#3
budsiskos Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: riverside, mo Posts: 168	the only downside is that if someone messes with the seg and it goes up, the seg will fall over

02-28-2009, 11:26 PM	#8
SEGsby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,114	That's a fricken awesome kickstand!!! And SOOO much better than the crappy Official one... Excellent work Jens! I want one!!!!

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