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Old 11-01-2007, 04:32 PM   #1
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I am taking my Segway to China and will depend on it for mobility. I did not realize that the tires could not be repaired by anyone but Segway -- has anyone experienced any tire trouble? Thanks for your help.
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:17 PM   #2
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I am taking my Segway to China and will depend on it for mobility. I did not realize that the tires could not be repaired by anyone but Segway -- has anyone experienced any tire trouble? Thanks for your help.
If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

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http://www.segwaytoday.net/SegwayToday/DIY/DIY.html and http://dfwseg.com/flat3.mov
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:29 AM   #3
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If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

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http://www.segwaytoday.net/SegwayToday/DIY/DIY.html and http://dfwseg.com/flat3.mov
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It should only be a few weeks until we see tire, tubes, and rims available for purchase separately. Inc seems to be in the final phase of making these available. That has been a high priority issue we us here. They had ask for a copy of our video to help with instructions for changing the tire. That was done a couple of months ago. I spoke with the person in charge of this issue and this is what I'm told.

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Old 11-02-2007, 12:38 PM   #4
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It should only be a few weeks until we see tire, tubes, and rims available for purchase separately. Inc seems to be in the final phase of making these available. That has been a high priority issue [with] us here. They had ask for a copy of our video to help with instructions for changing the tire. That was done a couple of months ago. I spoke with the person in charge of this issue and this is what I'm told.

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As always, thanks. I don't know what we'd do without your updates. I just wish my prior experiences with INC gave me confidence that their promised timetable will come to fruition. As it now stands, they've created a black market for the items; for only $30 and months of pleading you, too, can pick up a spare tube.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:15 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I did forget to mention that I have a "tubeless" tire on my i167. sorry about that.
I have since found out from Segway Oakland that I can use a tube of "fix-a-flat" to seal any punctures. I will give that a try and see if I can get thru security with the can - I will try to check it in with the machine at baggage and will report when I return.
Again, thanks for the support.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:10 AM   #6
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A traveling carrier for your machine since you are going that far.

The Segway Travel Case was designed for the gen one machine, hard to find. But you can go to an Army Navy Store and see what you can find.

Key of course is size and material that the case is made of to hold off the gremlins that hide in the baggage areas of airports.

The other thing that is very helpful is if the case has wheels - that helps you move the 100# box with ease.
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A traveling carrier for your machine since you are going that far.

The Segway Travel Case was designed for the gen one machine, hard to find. But you can go to an Army Navy Store and see what you can find.

Key of course is size and material that the case is made of to hold off the gremlins that hide in the baggage areas of airports.

The other thing that is very helpful is if the case has wheels - that helps you move the 100# box with ease.
Or do it on the cheap:
http://dc-segways.com/segwayassembly/travelpacking.html

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Why is one battery 0.2 lb heavier than the other?
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:05 PM   #9
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Why is one battery 0.2 lb heavier than the other?
Why is one battery 2% heavier than the other? Have no sure way of telling. Some possibilities:

Maybe because of production variances. Maybe the scale used was overly sensitive to the position of the object on the weighing surface.

There's a chart on page 23 of the gen1 reference manual which indicates that a pair of NiMH cells weigh 19 lbs. 9.4 + 9.6 = 19.

Maybe dc-segways only weighed one pack and subtracted that from 19 to determine the other one.

Other possible(?) answer:

Everyone knows riding a PT makes you lazy. The rear pack, by it's positional advantage, allows the it to aerodynamically "draft" behind the other. Since it expends less effort, it has a slight weight control problem.

It's fortunate that the top speed of the PT is so low. If it could go faster, the weight differential would be even higher, due to increased "drafting" efficiencies at higher speeds. If a PT were allowed to go fast enough, the rear pack would become so heavy with respect to the forward pack that the PT could lose it's ability to balance itself.

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If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

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Inc has just notified us that i2 tires and tubes are now shipping to dealers. Finally!! We have 20 on the way to us.

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