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Old 08-22-2014, 10:27 AM   #1
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I just saw an ad for segwaykiller.com

Looks like Ninebot makes the machine; 55lbs, 12.5mph, 18.6mile/charge

I'm surprised that's not some sort of infringement on the Segway name. What's the story with this company? Anyone use one of their machines?

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Old 08-22-2014, 10:56 AM   #2
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Looks like a Freego?... Just someone in USA that is carrying there products?....

Does not state battery type, or very much info....If you buy one give us a review.....
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Those ninebots actually don't look too bad. They claim redundant control boards and batteries. Nice and light, with lots of lighting options. It also looks like the official segway bag fits onto the "operation bar." The ninebot site has a video of a solowheel-type device with lots of cool blinking lights. I am genuinely interested in these guys now.
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The Ninebot (stupid name) does look interesting. It has features I would have expected Segway to have implemented by now - quick removal of handlebar, cooler looks, nifty display, cheaper, lighter... I'd love to see an unbiased detailed comparison, including a teardown.
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The off road model looks pretty good too. I am trying to find independent and/or owner reviews without much success.
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what type of batteries?
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It's like comparing Apple iPhone to a Huawei phone, the easiest way is to compare internal parts and components, I've seen and repaired most or all makes of two wheel balancing scooters in detail down to individual electronic components and there's no comparison at this point of time, maybe in a another five to 10 years time things will change (after some changes of cheap clone manufacturer's hit and run mentality of the Chinese maker)

Inaccurate data provided by the cheap clone is often look good but a lie is never the truth, just go for a test ride (highly recommended) and one will easily feel the difference, handling is a huge difference between a clone and a Segway, it's just a no brainer to choice which is better once you step on it, I can guarantee you will not be able to finish a game of Segway polo on a clone because either you or the machine will not last till the end of the game.


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Karl, Animoto-- good points.

I think it is worth pointing out that the last Gen1 fault was actually found while testing the then-unreleased x2. The code responsible for the fault was unchanged from Gen1 iSeries to Gen2, so all of the then-available Segs needed to be recalled (I can't remember if the p133 was affected.)

This does mean that all of the Super Safe™ Segways out there were actually operating with an extremely dangerous software bug for many years. All I mean to express with this, is that for all their big, hard thinking, Segway isn't perfect. As long as I never get into the unique edge case scenario that exposes these imperfections, things are fine. I don't see this being any different with a Clone. It doesn't need to be perfect, just good enough.
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To bad that cant be said about Toyota, Honda, or any of the South Korean company's.. They charge the same for an American car...except the profits and jobs get taken away from the UAW...
To borrow a phrase from the movie "Aliens", Maybe you haven't been paying attention. More than 20 years ago, Asian car companies decided it is good business to make cars in the USA, not just import them. All of the big foreign car companies now have a HUGE manufacturing presence in the USA. Honda and Toyota both have technical development centers here, and a large percentage of components for the vehicles are also made here.

While I believe trade unions have filled (and will fill) an important place in helping workers escape workplace abuse, I don't believe "profits" should go to the trade unions. If you're talking about workers, whether unionized or not, it's a different story, but that's not what was said.

According to Soichiro Honda himself, in 2010, Honda employed more than 25,000 associates in the U.S. with a payroll of $1.6 billion. Another 140,000 workers are employed at authorized dealerships in the U.S., and tens of thousands more work for the company's 530 U.S. original equipment (OEM) suppliers. For the most part, these are reasonably compensated jobs. That's not a bad record! Note that workers at Honda U.S. (and recently VW U.S.) have turned down union representation. They are reasonably happy with compensation, working conditions, and company-worker relations.

There are a LOT of big US companies who really screw their employees (and the country), by outsourcing manufacturing to low-cost countries when they do not need to do so (Apple, I'm looking at you), or reap incredibly huge corporate and personal fortunes on the backs of workers who are, quite literally, under the poverty line (Wal-Mart, for example). By comparison, the foreign car companies are role models for reasonable treatment of employees.
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To borrow a phrase from the movie "Aliens", Maybe you haven't been paying attention. More than 20 years ago, Asian car companies decided it is good business to make cars in the USA, not just import them. All of the big foreign car companies now have a HUGE manufacturing presence in the USA. Honda and Toyota both have technical development centers here, and a large percentage of components for the vehicles are also made here.

While I believe trade unions have filled (and will fill) an important place in helping workers escape workplace abuse, I don't believe "profits" should go to the trade unions. If you're talking about workers, whether unionized or not, it's a different story, but that's not what was said.

According to Soichiro Honda himself, in 2010, Honda employed more than 25,000 associates in the U.S. with a payroll of $1.6 billion. Another 140,000 workers are employed at authorized dealerships in the U.S., and tens of thousands more work for the company's 530 U.S. original equipment (OEM) suppliers. For the most part, these are reasonably compensated jobs. That's not a bad record! Note that workers at Honda U.S. (and recently VW U.S.) have turned down union representation. They are reasonably happy with compensation, working conditions, and company-worker relations.

There are a LOT of big US companies who really screw their employees (and the country), by outsourcing manufacturing to low-cost countries when they do not need to do so (Apple, I'm looking at you), or reap incredibly huge corporate and personal fortunes on the backs of workers who are, quite literally, under the poverty line (Wal-Mart, for example). By comparison, the foreign car companies are role models for reasonable treatment of employees.
I could so easily tear each one of your point apart bit by bit...I wont...

In the 60's and 70's the American auto industry was the largest employer, now Walmart is... Think that has anything to due with pay stagnation ?

Yes they figured out it was easier to build a car here than literally a slow boat from China? Do you also notice every one of those companies are in the right to work states?

Did you know the American auto industry imploded?

Its classic about the whole VW anti Union vote... Can I ask why a republican Congress person lied outright to the people of the factory that if they went union VW was leaving? You think that would sway anyone?

Just food for thought...This county is being destroyed from in from just a handful of very wealthy people...and todays kids will never be able to make what we did...

Just food for thought... That was then this is now....Are you better today than you were 5, 10, 15, 20 or 30, years ago?... The answer is worse!
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