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Old 01-09-2012, 10:13 PM   #11
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Well, maybe it's that they think people who read such things can afford the price...
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After a thourough review of the article DRAFT's comments can be read at the below link.

http://www.draft.org/Portals/0/Advoc...20Medicine.pdf

A responsible report would have also included a comparison with the number of injuries resulting from wheelchairs (hand and power operated), scooters, bicycles, and other injuries resulting from people moving from one place to another by various means, including various types of injuries to pedestrians.

But that wouldn't have grabbed headlines!

I'd add that if you don't want to risk injury--stay home--but that isn't all that safe either...
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After a thourough review of the article DRAFT's comments can be read at the below link.

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Lily, I posted a link to an unedited copy initially, I deleted that post and posted the corrected version.
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Lily, I posted a link to an unedited copy initially, I deleted that post and posted the corrected version.
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"In large measure we would agree with the editor's capsule summary of this study with the exception of the need for a specific E-code for injuries related to personal transporters. Any other conclusions drawn from this particular article are not supported by any credible research, data, or documentation."

I would have thought the specific E-code would be a good idea.
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Lily, I posted a link to an unedited copy initially, I deleted that post and posted the corrected version.
Actually. I was referring to the original articles about the incident, not DRAFT's response. But of course, the other statistics would be useful information to see the problem in perspective.
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"In large measure we would agree with the editor's capsule summary of this study with the exception of the need for a specific E-code for injuries related to personal transporters. Any other conclusions drawn from this particular article are not supported by any credible research, data, or documentation."

I would have thought the specific E-code would be a good idea.
Since we don't have specific E codes for wheelchairs, scooters etc. and which have countless more users than Segways what would be the objective of having an E code for a Segway, other than for those who seek to have their work published to continue to sensationalize the few accidents that happen.

Sometimes you have to use a little common sense, you fall off of the Segway or a wheelchair or scooter and strike your head the potential for great harm exists.
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The point would be so that statistics could be collected on Segway accidents. I am not aware of what codes exist or don't exist, but as we know Segways are very safe if used properly, lets see how the accident figures compare to others. We should see that relatively speaking, accidents would be relatively low. Maybe there should be codes for wheelchairs too, I don't know. But I for one would like stats for Segways. We have nothing to hide.
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If you want to spend the money to collect statistics that's fine but until they start collecting data on all mobility devices and quite frankly walking etc. then the picture is unclear.

Remember our issue was with their advocating for a specific E code for Segways, they advocated for nothing more than that.

We spend a lot of money collecting statistics on things that are gonna happen with or without them. Until we start figuring out who's gonna pay for things and the cost benefit ratio, we need to quit advocating for the collection of statistics and passing regulations that hamper progress.
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