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[RAG1247]

Originally Posted by macgeek

Tom, I have been using "Pimp My Segway™" since I first Joined this forum
As far as the Trademark law reads; If you Trademark something and publish it, it is considered Trademarked, It Its Registered (®) or Copyrighted (©)THEN you HAVE to register it

Jonathan

Jon

I thought a trademark had to be used in commerce for goods or services - are you going to start offering "pimp my segway" kits?????

[CT Arrow]

Originally Posted by bentbiker

CT,
Did you see this alternative to the Segway mount that Isidore found? I got two of the small ones and it seems pretty sturdy.

http://forums.segwaychat.com/showthr...unt#post128097

John

Hello John, What a great idea! Actually, I like it better then the Segway design.

Andy

[Desert_Seg]

Originally Posted by RAG1247

Jon

I thought a trademark had to be used in commerce for goods or services - are you going to start offering "pimp my segway" kits?????

Richard is right, there are no trademark rights on a phrase if they aren't associated with goods or services.

In basic terms a trademark protects words, phrases, designs and the like when identifying the goods or services of one party and distinguishing them from those of others.

So, "Pimp My Segway" kits, yes. "Pimp My Segway" as a standalone phrase, NO.

Unfortunately Jon also has no copyright privilege either. The copyright laws specifically exclude things such as titles, names, short phrases, slogans, etc.

And finally, to correct what was posted...

© does not necessarily means it is registered (nor does it have to). It just means you are protecting your works (look at most websites, they have © but aren't registered)

® means it is a registered copyright and has been accepted by the licensing office.

Unfortunately for Jon, even though he has been using the "Pimp My Segway" phrase for ever, he has no specific rights to it and I doubt he could even get it registered.

Steven

[florin]

Jon

I thought a trademark had to be used in commerce for goods or services - are you going to start offering "pimp my segway" kits?????

As far as I know, Jonathan is offering free courses/tutorials regarding how you can pimp your own segway by posting explenations and pictures on this forum

I always apriciate Jonathan's free Pimp my Segway tutorials, great services that he does to the Segway community. I hope it inspires other people to start pimping their segway.

[gbrandwood]

I'm probably wrong on this, but don't MTV own the rights to "Pimp my [whatever]"?

Just like Virgin, I think, own the rights to "The best [whatever] album in the world...Ever!".

I've been wrong before though () and I'm happy to be wrong again here.

Anyway, we know who the phrase belongs to (Jonathan), enforced in law or otherwise! Anyone else found using it will have to face the wrath of Segway Chat! And will likely be attacked by the Red Barron!

Oh, and this thread is fab. The pics and the mods are great.

Originally Posted by Desert_Seg

Richard is right, there are no trademark rights on a phrase if they aren't associated with goods or services.

In basic terms a trademark protects words, phrases, designs and the like when identifying the goods or services of one party and distinguishing them from those of others.

So, "Pimp My Segway" kits, yes. "Pimp My Segway" as a standalone phrase, NO.

Unfortunately Jon also has no copyright privilege either. The copyright laws specifically exclude things such as titles, names, short phrases, slogans, etc.

And finally, to correct what was posted...

© does not necessarily means it is registered (nor does it have to). It just means you are protecting your works (look at most websites, they have © but aren't registered)

® means it is a registered copyright and has been accepted by the licensing office.

Unfortunately for Jon, even though he has been using the "Pimp My Segway" phrase for ever, he has no specific rights to it and I doubt he could even get it registered.

Steven

[Desert_Seg]

Originally Posted by gbrandwood

I'm probably wrong on this, but don't MTV own the rights to "Pimp my [whatever]"?

Just like Virgin, I think, own the rights to "The best [whatever] album in the world...Ever!".

I've been wrong before though () and I'm happy to be wrong again here...

Yep, you are wrong . MTV (or whomever does the show) owns the rights to "Pimp My Ride" show but you cannot trademark something that does not exist. (Well, you can but if you don't produce it within xx days you lose it).

I don't know about the Virgin phrase though.

Steven

[macgeek]

Well, all cables, wires, etc, was mounted back into the Control shaft, with a major modification to the plastic / metal peice that interfaces with the main screw -- (I have no idea whats it called) I had to hollow it out to let the bigger wire harness pass thru (hello Mr. Dremel) But I didnt take any pictures of it, sorry.

anyway handlebar is mounted into the cs shaft, with wires going down the the CS base, i am prepping to start Phase Two, and wiring it all to the CS base

I did a Start Test, to make sure all my wiring and abusing had not hurt the handlebar, and wires.. and Damm this segway is tough!!!!



More to come

Jonathan

[gbrandwood]

Originally Posted by Desert_Seg

Yep, you are wrong . MTV (or whomever does the show) owns the rights to "Pimp My Ride" show but you cannot trademark something that does not exist. (Well, you can but if you don't produce it within xx days you lose it).

I don't know about the Virgin phrase though.

Steven

I might be wrong, but at least I didn't imagine it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_My_Ride#Legal_action

[Desert_Seg]

I read that reference when I replied to your post but the difference is that they have threatened legal action but never taken it to court.

So, I asked my friendly (US) attorney for an opinion and he spit back what I posted but even more interestingly stated that there is now a growing class of attorneys who will take this type of case for the defendant (not Viacom) and when sued by Viacom bring a countersuit for defamatory and injurious action in the state of...CALIFORNIA (a state that loves awarding damages to the small guy).

Steven

[CT Arrow]

A Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation ("SLAPP") is a form of litigation filed by a large organization or in some cases an individual plaintiff, to intimidate and silence a less powerful critic by so severely burdening them with the cost of a legal defense that they abandon their criticism. The acronym was coined in the 1980s by University of Denver professors Penelope Canan and George W. Pring.