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Old 06-01-2003, 06:28 PM   #11
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Keith:

You've said it correctly. "The Segway is about transportation; the last mile commute is Dean’s vision" -- this is the BIG PICTURE.

It's unfortunate that some Segway owners (especially some in this forum) don't see this vision and are going around in circles tryin to figure out what should be done or doing it the wrong way. And they think the rental aspect of this model is a threat.

Segway is here to stay and will be used in a manner that fulfil's Dean's vision, whether acquired or purchased is just a means to the end.



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Old 06-01-2003, 06:29 PM   #12
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clm - no one is working to ban rentals, you're making a huge assumption and trying to confuse the issue(s).
Hmmm, somehow I am in both violent agreement and disagreement with your reply. I bet someone out there, perhaps not you, would vote to ban rentals if they could. I do think it is about "turf" and I think I could convince you to agree with me in a more protracted discussion, and I am not trying to confuse issues (least I think not), but to help frame them.

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Old 06-01-2003, 06:41 PM   #13
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gary (gyro) does not own a segway, he has never rented a segway and runs a segway site that features rentals. he has his point of view, other people have theirs.
I hope to own one or more soon, sorry if it offends you that I could not afford one sooner. What have I said that is in error that would be corrected by having paid for one? I have ridden a Segway, and as an avid follower of the IT/Ginger/Segway since January 2001, I probably know more about Segways (at least from a business perspective) than most owners.

Anyway, I don't see how owning a Segway would change my appreciation for safe and responsible renting and use, adequate training, owners and renters having the same rights to use and enjoy Segs, that the Segway is a serious transportation solution as well as a recreational device, and that both transportation and recreational uses are both important.



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Old 06-01-2003, 06:47 PM   #14
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you have a different point of a view and valid one, that was my only point.

please do not rope other points in with that.

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Old 06-02-2003, 10:52 AM   #15
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you have a different point of a view and valid one, that was my only point.

please do not rope other points in with that.
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If that was your only point, then that is all you should have said. YOU are the one who "roped in other points" by inferring that my opinion is some how tarnished because I do not (today) own a Segway and I have a website. I countered that I do not understand how the points that you roped in adversely influence my position of freedom and equality of all Segway users, training, and absolutely safe and responsible use.

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Old 06-02-2003, 11:02 AM   #16
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gary-

read my entire post or even parts of it. you opinion -is very valued- because you have another point of view than mine and someone else with a segway, most of all you have a rental destination web site and have a couple of the rental places (jack for example) listed, so you of all folks have a -very very valued opinion, view, etc..-

>>gary (gyro) does not own a segway, he has never rented a segway and runs a segway site that features rentals. he has his point of view, other people have theirs.
>>welcome to an open forum of ideas.

folks, we need to look at solutions (working with rental places, segway, etc..) as opposed to picking on each other.

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I think that if anybody out there truly respects our concerns about rentals, it's probably Gary. Hey, he got his initial HT experience from the Brooster!



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Old 06-02-2003, 12:27 PM   #18
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folks, we need to look at solutions (working with rental places, segway, etc..) as opposed to picking on each other.
This is certainly something we do agree on, pt.



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Old 07-27-2003, 02:46 PM   #19
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Segway is a disorganized company that missed the whole market. Lets face it it was a fad, and has a few brief months left. To those who wish to become renters think about it with the law suits piercing your corporate shell, the spare parts that you will fight with daily to get from segway or be forced to work with one of their so called rental agents,,, go to ebay buy 6 of them get sued and enjoy your ice cream cone for a day if you can.








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People who have been watching Segway want to have the “Segway Experience”. The best way to expose a large number of people to the Segway is through demos or rentals. Rentals can and will lead into sales through exposure to the public. However, if not done properly rentals could become a major detriment to the Segway and self-balancing technology.

When a rental location opens they are possibly looking for a quick revenue scheme. If proper education about the product and its safe use is not given to the renter, then potential for problems exist. However, if the rental facility uses safe orientation techniques and educates the public about the product then they will have a great experience and will be able to envision how the Segway could be a part of their life.

The product as we all know is not about speed or to see what angles you can launch it off of or sharing it with your friends. The Segway is about transportation; the last mile commute is Dean’s vision. Rentals should be a tool for education, exposure and ultimately sales.

Rentals can be used for independent rentals or guided tours. They can give people a fun and education experience but a lot of due diligence should go into the business by the operator before they begin. We are all “ambassadors” of the Segway product. It is imperative that we make ourselves, as well as the product, successful. Businesses should go through the proper channels, work with city, county and state government officials and become part of the community in which you rent. We need the public and the community to be part of the experience so other areas will welcome the Segway.

Some of the rental locations popping up now will be of the “hit and run” variety. They are out to make a quick dollar without thought to the future of the product or the technology after they create negative media through unsafe education or lack of cooperation with the local community.

This email is not meant to make comparisons; it’s about one-man’s vision and how to make it succeed. I created our Segway rental business at NEVrland to promote the image of the product by allowing people to have a exceptional Segway experience and taking that experience back to their own lives. We are truly dedicated to the future of Segway and our new locations (soon to be franchises throughout Florida, the US and internationally) will provide a consistent, fun, quality experience for everyone.

We all need to do our part to contribute to the continued success of the Segway.

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Old 07-27-2003, 03:07 PM   #20
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Everkool, don't quote an entire bloody post, please. Who's getting sued is my question. Last time I checked, all Segway-authorized rental companies and locations worked in synch with LLC. What on earth are you talking about with this spare parts rant? I've never had a single problem when it came time to replace something, and I haven't had to replace anything since then. Last time I checked, nobody else has had a problem either. In fact, Segway LLC's and all of the authorized third parties, especially NEVrland, whose head you just quoted to flame, have GLEAMING support and help.

Learn something, then flame. Thanks,
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