Segway Alternative Robin M1

[RobinM1]

You can click on any of the signatures in our links or go to roboscooters.com, and if I may be allowed to do so by the admin, here is a link to a page where the robin runs circles around a robin at a shopping mall, were not affiliated in any shape with this video, but here is your proof that you wanted.

[Bob.Kerns]

Originally Posted by RobinM1

You can click on any of the signatures in our links or go to roboscooters.com, and if I may be allowed to do so by the admin, here is a link to a page where the robin runs circles around a robin at a shopping mall, were not affiliated in any shape with this video, but here is your proof that you wanted.

I was struck by two things:

1) The use of an X2 instead of i2 for the comparison.

2) The rider of the X2 obviously didn't know what he was doing.

I wouldn't say the Robin ran circles around a Robin (or a Segway, which I think is what you meant!), even so. It DID, however, "fit in" to the environment better.

For security, that's not really what they're looking for. For consumer acceptance, however, it probably is.

[Bob.Kerns]

Originally Posted by RobinM1

No no translator, I am from Eastern NC. We really meant no harm with our words in using segway style, we were under the impression that it's allowed on ebay, amazon, and all over the interent that it had become some what a way of describing a segway style vehicle. We cant take back our words and descriptions but we will do our best to refrain from calling the robin a seg.... alternative.

I really do suggest consulting a trademark attorney on this. For a few hundred bucks, you can get better information about what you can and can't do and how to avoid trouble, and protect your business interests.

And if you know what you CAN do, you can communicate better with your customers. I'm pretty sure you're allowed to make comparisons (like "the lightweight, affordable alternative to the Segway(TM)"). But it's not a topic where you should take advice from some non-lawyer on the internet (e.g. me).

[KSagal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=l486tKKIifY
( I do not know how to embed the actual video instead of the link)

The above video link is for the Segway Centaur. It exists, but even if I were to sell it, I cannot deliver it. I see this as just as accurate as your Robbin video.

Clearly, in your video, that particular Segway which looked like a modified X2, was not being used as it should or could. That video was designed and made to show off the Robbin in its best light, and the segway in its worst.

Again, I ask if you have actually been on either machine?

[KSagal]

Hey Robbin...

Since we have been told there are no Robbins in the US to use, we cannot discuss the actual items inside of it.

And since it is clearly a knock off, to me it seems much closer to a Toyota Winglet than any segway. Why don't you call it a Winglet alternative?

Perhaps on the Segway related sites, you call it a Segway Alternative, and on the Toyota related sites you call it a Winglet Alternative?

[Bob.Kerns]

This shows the Robin lacks an important feature of the i2 -- coordination of the balance with the "down" direction. The result is sort of half-way between a gen 1 and gen 2 Segway's steering.

[RobinM1]

I have had the pleasure of riding a robin on several occassions. I do not currently own one because we keep selling each one we get. I have been through 3 in the last month that we ordered for demos for us.

We are considering stocking and warehousing them in the near future.

I personally have never ridden a segway, but would love to. They are very appealing I have to admit, I love the big sexy tires on some of them. That is the foremost reason we got into the robins, it's because I like the segways and always wanted one. Then I met the robin and since it is relatively unheard of in many circles decided to see if we could successfully promote it and help get the word out.

That is is really nice video of the new segway you posted up by the way, thanks. Thats where the future of cars should go.

[Bob.Kerns]

Karl's link:



Karl, it seems you have to edit the link down so the part after the '?' only has the v=<code> parameter. Take out the other parameters (separated by '&') and the forum recognizes it and embeds it properly.

[RobinM1]

To mr Kerns. We do appreciate the information but segway has allot bigger fish to fry when it comes to that matter. Ebay, Amazon and the entire internet uses the segways term to describe all sorts of vehichles. Do a search for yourself. Thats where we learned it from.

[Bob.Kerns]

Originally Posted by RobinM1

To mr Kerns. We do appreciate the information but segway has allot bigger fish to fry when it comes to that matter. Ebay, Amazon and the entire internet uses the segways term to describe all sorts of vehichles. Do a search for yourself. Thats where we learned it from.

Again, I'm afraid you're mistaken. Neither Amazon nor eBay sell Segways or scooters of any type. Independent sellers (i.e. TINY fish) advertise and sell them on those sites. But it isn't Amazon or eBay that Segway, INC would be suing.

(And in both cases, the vast majority of items found searching for Segway on those sites actually ARE Segways, and most of the rest use the term properly and are careful not to describe themselves as Segways).

If you are at all successful, you would be the big fish.

And from a business ethics standpoint, the idea that "everybody else does it" does not make something right. And it's not very good protection against being sued, either.

The best protection against being sued is to not make any money. But if you're eating into a competitor's business, they may sue you anyway, just to shut you down.

There's (usually, at least one) right way and (always) many wrong ways to go about a business. I hope you find a right way and some success.

I depend on my Segway too much to be really happy about there being only one vendor. And I really do think a product like the Robin could help to grow the overall market.