Segway Alternative Robin M1

[KSagal]

Originally Posted by Tritium

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But this is a community forum, we shouldn't be arguing over other companies products, we should be discussing them without all the hate and anger.

I agree here, but we must remember, this topic was brought to us by a marketing person who was pretty clearly a troll.

I have no real issue with the Robin as a product, as I do not know enough about it directly, and have tried to be clear about that. I do desire a personal examination of one, and for lack of that, an examination of one by a less biased individual than a salesman from Robin.

That does not mean we cannot, by inference, judge the product by its representative on this forum. There has been post after post, comment after comment, about how we are segway ambassadors to the world. What novice people see others do on a segway will taint all of us. If the experience with the segway user is positive and polite, it makes it easier for the next segway user who encounters that environment. If the experience with the segway user is negative and rude, it makes it harder for the next segway user who encounters that environment.

Why should this be different for the robin? Many of us were not familiar with the robin. I was one. And our first exposure to the robin was a troll who came on and lied, and disregarded intellectual property as a minimum. A person who dismissed advice and information from knowledgeable people (far smarter than me) and made it clear that they did not care about certain facts.

Now, if all segway experiences are influenced by the preceding one, why would you not feel that all Robin experiences would not be equally influenced?

[Tritium]

Originally Posted by KSagal

I agree here, but we must remember, this topic was brought to us by a marketing person who was pretty clearly a troll.

I have no real issue with the Robin as a product, as I do not know enough about it directly, and have tried to be clear about that. I do desire a personal examination of one, and for lack of that, an examination of one by a less biased individual than a salesman from Robin.

That does not mean we cannot, by inference, judge the product by its representative on this forum. There has been post after post, comment after comment, about how we are segway ambassadors to the world. What novice people see others do on a segway will taint all of us. If the experience with the segway user is positive and polite, it makes it easier for the next segway user who encounters that environment. If the experience with the segway user is negative and rude, it makes it harder for the next segway user who encounters that environment.

Why should this be different for the robin? Many of us were not familiar with the robin. I was one. And our first exposure to the robin was a troll who came on and lied, and disregarded intellectual property as a minimum. A person who dismissed advice and information from knowledgeable people (far smarter than me) and made it clear that they did not care about certain facts.

Now, if all segway experiences are influenced by the preceding one, why would you not feel that all Robin experiences would not be equally influenced?

Yes, the "troll" was quite obviously being asinine in their regards and that was not very acceptable.
I agree on the influencing part, I always try and make the best.

I'm sure many other members would've been a bit nicer if they didn't blatantly spam the hell out of us and didn't lie, but alas, that was not the case.

Many of us still have questions and dislikes of the Robin so that's why I thought if buy one and see what all the hype is.
Unfortunately due to my financial situation, I am unable to purchase one soon.
But as I did promise, I will be testing on in the coming day or if I cannot make it up today, I will on Monday.

A product is only as good as the company who stands behind it and the company is only as good as the people who run it.

[Gihgehls]

Originally Posted by KSagal

I agree here, but we must remember, this topic was brought to us by a marketing person who was pretty clearly a troll.

I'd say he/she is closer to a shill than a troll.

You keep using that word: I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Tritium]

Originally Posted by Gihgehls

I'd say he/she is closer to a shill than a troll.

You keep using that word: I do not think it means what you think it means.

He is using it correctly.

A troll is a person who knowingly and intentionally posts defamatory, obscene or untrue messages, usually with the intention to offend or provoke.

[Gihgehls]

Originally Posted by Tritium

He is using it correctly.

A troll is a person who knowingly and intentionally posts defamatory, obscene or untrue messages, usually with the intention to offend or provoke.

You're right. My apologies.

[KSagal]

Actually, I kind of agree with Gihgehls. Shill is what she intended to be. But a shill in front of a carnival tent is not really a shill when they go on an internet forum and say things intended to mislead. At that point, I believe they become a troll.

I am familiar with the term troll as it relates to the internet. When I was a child, it was a creature famous for collecting tolls on bridges, but without the tendency to go out on disability, as modern toll collectors seem to do.

I am not familiar with the internet term of shill.


Speaking of that, I am familiar with the telephone term of a 'telephone tiger'. This is someone who is very aggressive on the phone, but not so much in person. Surely there are people who are very aggressive on line, but not so much in person. What do we call them?

[Tritium]

Originally Posted by KSagal

Actually, I kind of agree with Gihgehls. Shill is what she intended to be. But a shill in front of a carnival tent is not really a shill when they go on an internet forum and say things intended to mislead. At that point, I believe they become a troll.

I am familiar with the term troll as it relates to the internet. When I was a child, it was a creature famous for collecting tolls on bridges, but without the tendency to go out on disability, as modern toll collectors seem to do.

I am not familiar with the internet term of shill.


Speaking of that, I am familiar with the telephone term of a 'telephone tiger'. This is someone who is very aggressive on the phone, but not so much in person. Surely there are people who are very aggressive on line, but not so much in person. What do we call them?

I call them:
"Users in my blocked user list"

[Bob.Kerns]

Originally Posted by Tritium

But this is a community forum, we shouldn't be arguing over other companies products, we should be discussing them without all the hate and anger. -

I quite agree, but welcome to the Internet, sigh.

[CovRob]

Originally Posted by KSagal

Surely there are people who are very aggressive on line, but not so much in person. What do we call them?

A "keyboard warrior" is the term I've read about people who contribute opinions quite aggressively or forcefully ...

[Tritium]

Originally Posted by CovRob

A "keyboard warrior" is the term I've read about people who contribute opinions quite aggressively or forcefully ...

I thought that term was for people who typed and or replied fast.