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Old 02-16-2007, 02:37 AM   #41
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... I understand the concerns of both sides and hope people get out there and show the Segway X2 being used the way its built to be used.
I was wrong, and I have to admit it.

While I still have concerns about a video such as this being used as a weapon against pro-Segway legislation, I have to agree with Shawn, and many others, have correctly pointed out that the Segway has multiple uses and showing these uses is a positive.

Will there be some backlash due to this video? While I believe there will be, nobody knows for sure.

Can there be some positive from this video? Yes. There is a whole market out there that is untapped and Shawn is working towards it.

So, I admit my error...and now I need to figure out how to capture the same market.

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Old 03-23-2007, 12:46 AM   #42
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I have had many positive comments through emails and phone calls from Segway Chat members and new customers that have seen this video. Thank you.


We did revise it a few days ago which killed the old link and it was just brought to my attention so here is the new one.



This is my favorite video although I am waiting for couple good challenge at some flag football.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:15 PM   #43
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I have been looking on youtube. Nobody is posting any decent videos, come on guys....throw away the orange vests and get to moving that Segway with a camera watching.

I guess we will have to make another one.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:27 PM   #44
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The X2 is better machine by far. It flies through the air and never seems to shut down, not on us anyway. I have seen it leave the ground for 3 seconds or so and not even shutter when it lands.
Um, are you sure?

3 seconds is an AWFULLY long time. Please proved video shot and uploaded in playing in real time, because until I see it, I'm going to think you're suffereing from temporal displacement.

I highly doubt any Segway would survive that sort of jump even with properly designed ballistic ramps because we're talking about a jump that would, if done from level to ramp to jump and back again, place the Segway about 24ish feet UP in the air.
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As far as the X2 and videos go, I would think a really interesting concept would be to have one outfitted as a combat carrier.

A lone trooper outfitted with a Segway riding on a goat trail and followed by an RMP 400. The trooper negotiates terrain that, while passable by other means simply couldn't be passed as quickly. The RMP 400 dutifully follows the trooper to a small ridge top.

The trooper pulls out a pair of binoculars and scouts the landscape in front of him. He places the X2 in self balance mode and punches in a few coordinates on a control panel. The RMP 400 sprints down the goat path. A few moments later a wounded soldier is seen on top of the RMP 400 as it sprints back toward the trooper. The trooper starts to give first aid as a rescue helicopter is seen in the background.
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:24 PM   #46
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The X2 is better machine by far. It flies through the air and never seems to shut down, not on us anyway. I have seen it leave the ground for 3 seconds or so and not even shutter when it lands.
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Um, are you sure?

3 seconds is an AWFULLY long time. Please proved video shot and uploaded in playing in real time, because until I see it, I'm going to think you're suffereing from temporal displacement.
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Only one of the jumps or air shots are in slow motion, it shows the same one in real time later on flying over 4 ft in the air, landing and riding off.

There is skill and balance involved, the better you are and the more you stay in balance "while in the air" the longer the machine is active. I don't think we are suffering from anything, yet. Trying to lose the geek squad type jacket that goes with a Segway.

I would like to see someone else make a video that shows some of their personal talent using a Segway, in real time of course. Maybe add some music or something, that says more than words usually.

I think the trooper video would be great, I am not a trooper so I cant do that one. Not to mention the RMP issue.

I was thinking something in the lines of a Segway Ninja, maybe ask the Segway Ninja, that may be a good one. Or something more like the theme flirting with disaster, by molly hatchet, that may be a bit extreme but that sure beats wearing a vest.
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:36 PM   #47
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I completely agree with your idea of losing the Segway "geek" image.

I've only been riding a Segway for a little while compared to most of the folks on this web site. Something I don't understand is the overall hostility toward the device, but I do think a big part of it has to do with the notion that we're all a bunch of fat, rich, elitist jerks that would rather hop on a scooter than walk the 1 block to Starbucks.

Today while I was doing my regular commute to work (8 miles one way) I met a couple on a tandem bicycle while stopped waiting for a light to change. They were, natually, decked out in spandex regalia. The guy said I was "cheating". I said I couldn't be cheating, because I wasn't even playing the same game. I was on my way to WORK and that this was my daily commute. They asked me "how far?" I described the ride and suddenly I think the woman on the back of the bike understood; it's too far to walk, impractical to ride a bike due to sweatiness and driving a car is just stupid.

THE problem is that people simply don't see the UTILITY of the device but rather see it as just an expensive toy (which, admittedly, to some it clearly is. (cough, cough) Segway-polo in the press isn't helping the image guys; seriously. The word polo simply will never have the "everyman" connotation; way geek, way elitist. Don't get me wrong PLO, I'm going to be tickled pick to watch you and others play a bit, but I really hope it doesn't end up on YouTube because I already know what most of the comments will be.

Money is the "other" issue. People see it as a waste of $5000. $5000 buys a really nice bicycle . . . but again, it's a completely different game.

As for "Ask a Segway Ninja" . . . uh, kinda derivative of this guy eh? I'd find something a bit more original.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:20 PM   #48
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I completely agree with your idea of losing the Segway "geek" image.

I've only been riding a Segway for a little while compared to most of the folks on this web site. Something I don't understand is the overall hostility toward the device, but I do think a big part of it has to do with the notion that we're all a bunch of fat, rich, elitist jerks that would rather hop on a scooter than walk the 1 block to Starbucks.

Today while I was doing my regular commute to work (8 miles one way) I met a couple on a tandem bicycle while stopped waiting for a light to change. They were, natually, decked out in spandex regalia. The guy said I was "cheating". I said I couldn't be cheating, because I wasn't even playing the same game. I was on my way to WORK and that this was my daily commute. They asked me "how far?" I described the ride and suddenly I think the woman on the back of the bike understood; it's too far to walk, impractical to ride a bike due to sweatiness and driving a car is just stupid.

THE problem is that people simply don't see the UTILITY of the device but rather see it as just an expensive toy (which, admittedly, to some it clearly is. (cough, cough) Segway-polo in the press isn't helping the image guys; seriously. The word polo simply will never have the "everyman" connotation; way geek, way elitist. Money is the "other" issue. People see it as a waste of $5000. $5000 buys a really nice bicycle . . . but again, it's a completely different game.

As for "Ask a Segway Ninja" . . . uh, kinda derivative of this guy eh? I'd find something a bit more original.


I agree with parts of your post, especially the part where you say you don't understand the overall hostility to the device.

I see what you see very differently. Speaking in defense of some of the conservative gliders or the folks that encourage gliders not to 'hot-shot' around, because time after time, people experience exactly what you experienced, but with different people...

You stated that you got an initial negative response from the biker. You went on to give us the impression that you may have changed that impression for at least one of the two you spoke to. That is a good record, if accurate.

What if they did not stop at that light, but passed you in the middle of the block? You would not have had the opportunity to explain yourself.

What if that same guy happens to be a mayor, or city council member, and he passed you in the middle of the block? Then he would have come to the corner with his impression in tact, and you did not change that...

Many of us have had to deal with at least the potential of bans and restrictions, put on us by people like that one on the bike, that have positions of authority, but not necessarily informed opinions.

We all know that far far more people pass us on the road than we have time to speak to...

Many of us that have been on this forum for a long time, were the first segways in our community. We experienced that first impression hundreds of times.

You yourself indicated the notion that we're all a bunch of fat, rich, elitist jerks that would rather hop on a scooter than walk the 1 block to Starbucks.

If you feel that way based on some posts on this forum, then why would some that have never met a segger, or been on a segway have a different view?

You may have some precoceptions about polo. Good for you. I am old enough to remember how people reacted to school kids playing soccer instead of baseball and football. Now there is a move to Lacross. I am involved in my towns planning and organization, and there is some hesitancy there as well. Polo? who knows. I played water polo in school, does that count?

I believe that Segways are a part of the future, but they are indeed a new thing, and because of that, they do not easily fit into the concepts of the past. The more people try to force them into the realities of yesterday, the more negatives get generated...

Paying attention and complaining about yesterday are fine, but I would rather be paying attention and being forceful about assuring my place in tomarro.

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You yourself indicated the notion that we're all a bunch of fat, rich, elitist jerks that would rather hop on a scooter than walk the 1 block to Starbucks.

If you feel that way based on some posts on this forum, then why would some that have never met a segger, or been on a segway have a different view?

You may have some precoceptions about polo.

Oh, I've definitely NOT had the opportunity to respond to quite a few people.

So far my favorite was a guy in a HUGE yellow SUV that yelled out his window, "Why don't you walk you lazy A$$?" I wrote about that elsewhere I think. Not only is it unwise to respond to these folks it's like teaching a pig to sing. It's just not possible.

As for my comments Segway polo. I AM intrigued by the idea, but I was talking about the impression it gives the public, not me. I believe people should do their own thing, have fun and enjoy life. Segway polo ABSOLUTELY falls into this for at least a number of folks.

That said, the general public will NEVER see it that way. NEVER. And if you want to believe otherwise go right ahead, but in a NASCAR world, polo just doesn't play. Take a look at the attached. Boom! THE Stereotype; rich, fat, geek. I don't care if he is "The Woz". FFS at least wear some blue jeans and untuck the shirt!
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Segway-polo in the press isn't helping the image guys; seriously. The word polo simply will never have the "everyman" connotation; way geek, way elitist. Don't get me wrong PLO, I'm going to be tickled pick to watch you and others play a bit, but I really hope it doesn't end up on YouTube because I already know what most of the comments will be.
Hmph...such blasphemy from an unbeliever. Well, be careful what you say about polo BEFORE you've tried it. It's much like a person's first ride on a segway...hesitant, unsure but upon experiencing it firsthand they clearly change their views. All in a matter of 60 seconds. Same things apply to segway owners who contemplate polo...after 60 seconds of holding the mallet and a few good swings. They're hooked...for life!

(Mental note...pay special attention to which polo mallet Quade gets. Make sure it's the one with the handle slathered in "assimilation" drugs. 8^) 8^) 8^) )

ps - As to any videos, trust me when I say with polo being played for years there are dozens (possibly hundreds) around. And if people want to watch polo on YouTube (or in person) make snide remarks under their breath or under the anonymity that the internet affords them, fine. I guess I just don't notice that much because I'm having too much fun...chasing a ball around....on the grass...on a nice sunny day!
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