Segway Key Software - Request for Beta Testers

[dale@thecoys.net]

1. How do I change the USB Port? I originally had the key hardware plugged into USB port 5, and the software found it just fine. Then today I plugged the key hardware into USB port 6, and the software will not find it. The other key software available (ibutton viewer, copy machine, etc.) can easily be changed to see it on port 6. And if I plug it into port 5, then SKManager finds it OK - but there needs to be some way to have SKManager find the port that the hardware is *NOW* plugged into, rather than the first port it saw.

2. I tried to use SKManager to change the turn rate on a key from 37.5 to 40. However, every time I clicked on "write", it went back to 37.5. So, I used a different program to change the turn rate to 40. Now, SKManager displays the turn as 31.5. But iButton Viewer and Copy Machine display the turn as 40.

SKManager shows (top left window) the iButton code as 17 00 00 00 6c 66 b5 04, if that's significant to you.

This is a SKManager.exe file that I downloaded yesterday (April 13), and is 655,360 bytes. However, it identifies itself (about...) as version 1.0

[dale@thecoys.net]

Originally Posted by dale@thecoys.net

2. I tried to use SKManager to change the turn rate on a key from 37.5 to 40. However, every time I clicked on "write", it went back to 37.5. So, I used a different program to change the turn rate to 40. Now, SKManager displays the turn as 31.5. But iButton Viewer and Copy Machine display the turn as 40.

Oops - I understand what's going on here - the other software (iButton Viewer and Copy Machine) are showing the raw hex data, but SKManager is showing percent. So, X40 = 31.5 percent.

And SKManager is silently "correcting" input that it considers to be bad. So, it "corrects" 40% to be 37.5%.

Perhaps a pulldown list of "legal" values would be helpful.

[Thomas]

Still a bit dizzy, just made turn rate measurements on my i167 with 14.1 firmware. What I found:

1) The turn rate is independent from the fifths bit, only the 4 most significant bits are used to determine the turn rate.
2) Minimum turn rate is 3 (= 18,75%), lower values are adjusted to 3 automatically.
3) Maximaum turn rate is 12 (=0xC=75%=red key), higher values are adjusted to 12 automatically.
4) Results of the ten possible turn rate values:

 
Value     Rounds per Minute when turning in place
 3=18,75% 6,8
 4=25,00% 10,2
 5=31,25% 13,6
 6=37,50% 16,9
 7=43,75% 20,5
 8=50,00% 23,6
 9=56,25% 26,0
10=62,5ß% 27,6
11=68,75% 29,3
12=75,00% 30,6

[dale@thecoys.net]

Thanks. That's valuable information.

[dale@thecoys.net]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Still a bit dizzy, just made turn rate measurements on my i167 with 14.1 firmware. What I found:

1) The turn rate is independent from the fifths bit, only the 4 most significant bits are used to determine the turn rate.
2) Minimum turn rate is 3 (= 18,75%), lower values are adjusted to 3 automatically.
3) Maximaum turn rate is 12 (=0xC=75%=red key), higher values are adjusted to 12 automatically.
4) Results of the ten possible turn rate values:

 
Value     Rounds per Minute when turning in place
 3=18,75% 6,8
 4=25,00% 10,2
 5=31,25% 13,6
 6=37,50% 16,9
 7=43,75% 20,5
 8=50,00% 23,6
 9=56,25% 26,0
10=62,5ß% 27,6
11=68,75% 29,3
12=75,00% 30,6

Looking at that for a moment, compared with other information, there's a bit of a discrepancy - probably caused by dizziness. Perhaps you can look at your notes again.

Most references indicate that the RED key is in fact 75% turn - but that it is coded B0, which would be decimal 11 - not decimal 12. Looking at one of my red keys, it's coded B0.

[toybuilder]

1. How do I change the USB Port?

The program always looks for the iButton port on the default port specified in the iButton Default 1-Wire Net program that comes with the iButton driver.

Most references indicate that the RED key is in fact 75% turn - but that it is coded B0, which would be decimal 11 - not decimal 12. Looking at one of my red keys, it's coded B0.

You are both right! Thomas's number reflect the computed value, while Dale's number reflects the key encoding.

That is, the vaule "0" actually means 1 unit of turn = 6.25%. (It wouldn't make sense to have 0 turn, even if we sometimes wish that was possible!)

Correspondingly, the 12-units-of-turn is encoded as 11.

Joseph

[dale@thecoys.net]

OK, so how do I change the USB port?

[Isidore]

Just came back from holiday and found the hardware I had ordered before leaving. Can report that the software worked first time on a Macintosh running Virtual PC and Windows 2000. It would be nice to be able to write keys when the original is not available but this is not essential at the moment. Any advice on setting the time out setting to values other than the ones you have provided?


Many thanks again it's really great!

[toybuilder]

Originally Posted by dale@thecoys.net

OK, so how do I change the USB port?

If you re-run the iButton Default 1-Wire Net program again, you should be able to change the port. That's how I did it on my setup switching between USB and Serial.

[Mikaele]

Toybuilder,

I love the application, it works perfectly and is a really handy tool. I notice that there are Open and Save options under "File", but they are greyed out. Is there any way to save a configuration for use later?