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a private company can launch a low cost moonrover for the price of a few TV commercials... but the prestige and media coverage of a moonrover launch is 1000 times better!!! but the race is NOT only a "moon game" or a "moon reality show"... the low cost technology may be used for many scientific moonrovers launched from privates, universities and space agencies around the world to accomplish a complete exploration of the moon as explained in my "VME" webpage www.gaetanomarano.it/moonrovers/moonrovers.html so, it absolutely will be not a waste of money ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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the total cost of NASA mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity (all inclusive) was $800 million the NASA plan for moonrovers will cost $400 million with probably only four rovers launched if you build moonrovers with military-grade parts instead of NASA standards, they may cost less than 1,000,000 each but you must accept that part of them will fails or work for less time than planned moon is too big to explore with four rovers, it need hundreds rovers (with different "generations") to explore 100 "perfect" rovers at $100 million each = $10 billion 140 "good" rovers at $1 million each = $140 million despite 30% of them will fail, the "medium" cost of each "good" rover will remain LOW... less than $1.4 million each the cost of the launch for each "perfect" or "good" rovers is the same (around $30 million up) ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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12-14-2005, 04:31 PM | #44 |
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12-15-2005, 04:31 PM | #45 |
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Using your numbers, and a cost of $30 mil for each launch, if you need 140 good rovers to do the job of 100 better rovers, wouldn't you have to add the cost of the extra launches and system support for each of the failed or expected to fail rover to the end cost?
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99% of good designed moonrovers (with moon temperature specs) may works well like "perfect" rovers the two mars rovers was expected to work a few months but they are still alive! 1st generation (image & travel only) moonrovers will be very little and light so can be launched with little and (relatively) low cost rocktets like Pegasus (1000 lbs. payload at 13.5 million per launch) launch 100+ moonrovers may need only a dozen of mid-rockets with 10-20 rovers per launch consider that 100 "perfect" NASA moonrovers need over $10 billion, so, all costs of private rovers will be cheaper ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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I find it interesting that you can give very specific and detailed numbers and details on devices that have yet to be specified, designed nor built.
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"...that have yet to be specified, designed nor built..."
we are only in the early days of this project... it need much time and work "...Even Nostradomis was not that good..." but send rovers on the moon is not a disaster prediction ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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about costs evaluation... my first job was in electronics... after (and to-day) computers... so, I've some knowlendge about components, costs, etc. about rocket launch... their prices are well known, see www.ksc.nasa.gov/facts/faq13.html ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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- - - moonrover cost and minimum prize amount - - - in these days I've evaluated the (possible) cost of a simple moonrover launch and the minimum amount needed for the 1st race price (moon travel & 3D images) a simple 200-300 lbs. moonrovers may cost: - $13.5 million for a Pegaus launch - $0.5 million for a simple moonrover - $5 million for the trans lunar injection engine and tanks (and moon braking) - $1 million for the marsrovers-like moon landing airbags then, a $20 million budget may be sufficient but moonrovers' race competitors DON'T NEED to invest all this money the only need to build the rover and test them in labs to verify if rovers may land and work on the moon (search for launch will be only the second-step) the X-prize competition (for sub-orbital flight) was only $10 million but the winner of the prize have spent $30 million to build the SpaceShipOne then, $10 million may be sufficient for the 1st moonrovers' prize competition but I hope to find sufficient sponsors to reach a $20+ million prize, so, the winner will have (both) a great prestige and a TOTAL REFUND of the money spent to design and launch the rover! ---------------------------------------------- Moonrovers' Prize Competition www.gaetanomarano.it/moonprize/moonprize.html |
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