"break A Leg"

RAY-NER · 02-02-2008, 04:24 PM

That's a showbiz term for good luck when going on stage. My situation differs. I got thrown onto the sidewalk while riding my i2 here in Port Hueneme, CA. The left wheel struck a 2 inch high curb while the right wheel was on the wheelchair incline on the sidewalk approach. The i2 then spun swiftly clockwise after it climbed the obstruction and threw me off to my right side, all 260 pounds of me pounding to the pavement. I broke my femur just below the hip socket and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. My reason for telling you this is to try and discover if there is any other such incident equal to mine. Who knows, I may be the obe and only, but I would like to discover any information about similar accidents on a SEGWAY. RAY-NER

bentbiker · 02-02-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RAY-NER

That's a showbiz term for good luck when going on stage. My situation differs. I got thrown onto the sidewalk while riding my i2 here in Port Hueneme, CA. The left wheel struck a 2 inch high curb while the right wheel was on the wheelchair incline on the sidewalk approach. The i2 then spun swiftly clockwise after it climbed the obstruction and threw me off to my right side, all 260 pounds of me pounding to the pavement. I broke my femur just below the hip socket and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. My reason for telling you this is to try and discover if there is any other such incident equal to mine. Who knows, I may be the obe and only, but I would like to discover any information about similar accidents on a SEGWAY. RAY-NER

Ray,

Sorry to hear of your accident. I can assure you that you are not the only one to lose concentration long enough to break bones. Were you wearing a helmet?

Is your interest in others' broken bones one of curiosity and taking turns calling each other "dumb"

, or do you have another purpose? I'm not sure it is in the best interest of Segway enthusiasts to make it nice and easy for Segway bashers to gather ammunition, by posting a long list of those injured, even if all of us agree that the cause was human error. After all, you are a self-proclaimed gambler.

pam · 02-02-2008, 05:56 PM

Yep, John is right. Maybe if someone else has had the same kind of accident they can PM ray-ner.

Thanks,
Pam

quade · 02-04-2008, 07:58 PM

I guess I really should start out by saying I'm sorry to hear about RAY-NER's accident and do hope he heals well.

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Originally Posted by bentbiker

I'm not sure it is in the best interest of Segway enthusiasts to make it nice and easy for Segway bashers to gather ammunition, by posting a long list of those injured, even if all of us agree that the cause was human error.

Hmmm . . . I would see it differently (surprised?).

One of the web sites I moderate has an accident database. There are several reasons for this but among them is to keep businesses "honest" in their safety claims and to educate the users as to all the various ways things can go tragically wrong.

Being a pro-Segway user group and living in a litigious society I can see why some people might think they're somehow "protecting" Segway Inc by keeping this sort of information quiet, but I think in the long run it's a disservice to existing and future Segway riders to sort of sweep incidents, accidents and worse under the rug.

People underestimate the serious potential of breaking a femur. It's not something to be taken lightly unless you regularly deal with consequences much, much worse and even then . . .

bentbiker · 02-04-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by quade

Hmmm . . . I would see it differently (surprised?).

Yes, I am surprised. You have frequently stated that the Segway doesn't have the greatest image among the general population. With the number of people trying to ban the Segway (and anything else that is new), I feel a list of accidents would serve quite well the purposes of those lobbying against Segways. PI attorneys are only a secondary concern to me.

As far as sweeping things under the rug . . . I think I've been quite vocal in my warnings as to the damage one can do to himself with only the briefest span of inattention, because of my significant experience

in that area. In the last 15 months, there must have been a couple hundred posts exhorting users to take seriously all warnings re the dangers of riding a Segway. I can't believe anyone would ever say the dangers have been minimized on this site.

quade · 02-04-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bentbiker

Yes, I am surprised. You have frequently stated that the Segway doesn't have the greatest image among the general population.

True, but for completely different reasons.

Maybe a bit of a dangerous, "bad boy" vibe wouldn't exactly be the worst thing that ever happened to the Segway. Then again, I seriously doubt that's where it could ever go after White and Nerdy.

Of course, that's also at cross purposes with DRAFT et al., but I also think the fact remains that the device does have a certain danger potential that's frequently overlooked and I think a database of sorts (nothing more than a thread of incidents) would be invaluable to folks wanting to do a bit of research or at least keep track of who femured first.

hellphish · 02-05-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by quade

I guess I really should start out by saying I'm sorry to hear about RAY-NER's accident and do hope he heals well.

Hmmm . . . I would see it differently (surprised?).

One of the web sites I moderate has an accident database. There are several reasons for this but among them is to keep businesses "honest" in their safety claims and to educate the users as to all the various ways things can go tragically wrong.

Being a pro-Segway user group and living in a litigious society I can see why some people might think they're somehow "protecting" Segway Inc by keeping this sort of information quiet, but I think in the long run it's a disservice to existing and future Segway riders to sort of sweep incidents, accidents and worse under the rug.

People underestimate the serious potential of breaking a femur. It's not something to be taken lightly unless you regularly deal with consequences much, much worse and even then . . .

I fully agree with this.

You don't need to tell a lie in order to purposefully deceive.

RAY-NER · 02-03-2008, 02:17 AM

I really only want to earn the title of "THE ONE AND ONLY" leg breaker.... (an outstanding, but painful achievement). Maybe I can qualify for the Guiness Book of Records. Yes, I was wearing a helmet. RAY-NER

KSagal · 02-03-2008, 02:48 AM

I was playing with my GPS on the handlebar of my e-167 a few years ago, and ran the right wheel into a curb, at the inside of a fork in the road...

I took a header, and embarssed the hell out of myself, but did not get hurt. I got lucky, no damage (except to my pride) and even my stetson stayed on.

Similar accident, I got luckier.

I wish you a speedy convalescence.

02-03-2008, 03:02 AM

Wasn't there a news story posted, sometime in the last quarter of 2007, of someone with no experience jumping on a Segway, taking a header and breaking a leg?

I can't remember the particulars, but I seem to recall a thread detailing that, based on a news story John referenced, and that thread degenerated into a blsting of PI attorneys...

Anyone else recall something like this?

02-02-2008, 04:24 PM	#1
RAY-NER Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TAMPA, FLORIDA Posts: 120	"break A Leg" That's a showbiz term for good luck when going on stage. My situation differs. I got thrown onto the sidewalk while riding my i2 here in Port Hueneme, CA. The left wheel struck a 2 inch high curb while the right wheel was on the wheelchair incline on the sidewalk approach. The i2 then spun swiftly clockwise after it climbed the obstruction and threw me off to my right side, all 260 pounds of me pounding to the pavement. I broke my femur just below the hip socket and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. My reason for telling you this is to try and discover if there is any other such incident equal to mine. Who knows, I may be the obe and only, but I would like to discover any information about similar accidents on a SEGWAY. RAY-NER __________________ KEEP ON TRUCKIN'

02-03-2008, 02:17 AM	#8
RAY-NER Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TAMPA, FLORIDA Posts: 120	Break A Leg I really only want to earn the title of "THE ONE AND ONLY" leg breaker.... (an outstanding, but painful achievement). Maybe I can qualify for the Guiness Book of Records. Yes, I was wearing a helmet. RAY-NER __________________ KEEP ON TRUCKIN'

02-03-2008, 02:48 AM	#9
KSagal Glides a lot, talks more... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pelham, NH, USA. Posts: 10,356	I was playing with my GPS on the handlebar of my e-167 a few years ago, and ran the right wheel into a curb, at the inside of a fork in the road... I took a header, and embarssed the hell out of myself, but did not get hurt. I got lucky, no damage (except to my pride) and even my stetson stayed on. Similar accident, I got luckier. I wish you a speedy convalescence. __________________ Karl Ian Sagal To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "Well done is better than well said." (Ben Franklin) Bene factum melior bene dictum Proud past President of SEG America and member of the First Premier Segway Enthusiasts Group and subsequent ones as well.

02-02-2008, 05:56 PM	#3
pam Last of the Early 30 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yelm, WA Posts: 4,679	Yep, John is right. Maybe if someone else has had the same kind of accident they can PM ray-ner. Thanks, Pam

02-03-2008, 03:02 AM	#10
Eric Payne Guest Posts: n/a	Wasn't there a news story posted, sometime in the last quarter of 2007, of someone with no experience jumping on a Segway, taking a header and breaking a leg? I can't remember the particulars, but I seem to recall a thread detailing that, based on a news story John referenced, and that thread degenerated into a blsting of PI attorneys... Anyone else recall something like this?

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