Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

[bentbiker]

Originally Posted by pam

I have never openly said that, and I have never done it. I don't even know how.

Has a post been deleted? Said or done what?

Originally Posted by BillPaxton

I do not think that is correct

Are you saying you don't think Pam is correct in saying that she has never said that?

I know it saves a few bytes of space on the HD to not quote the person you are talking to, but it really makes it hard to follow.

[JohnG]

The person who pam was replying to decided to delete his own post after pam had already replied to it, so it's a little hard to understand what she was replying to.

The question was about PMs. Yes, they can be accessed via the database when absolutely necessary, but on a regular basis does anyone do this? No, we have neither the interest, inclination or time to do so. We keep a log of all such accesses, so I know this for a fact.

John

[i2Glide]

BillPaxton, it is possible to access and read the PMs if you are an op or moderator. It really is not that hard though it does take a few minutes.

In vBulletin if a member isn't allowed to post their PMs can either be blocked or be filtered, just like their posts would be filtered or blocked. It really isn't that hard.

vBulletin also has a filtering tool that gives the ops and mods the power to highlight or block certain words. It is common to use it for cuss words but sometimes ops and mods will use it to eliminate website references, insert characters in email addresses, or delete stuff they don't think proper. It says on the registration page that segwaychat uses the filter so maybe what was mentioned was automatic.

[i2Glide]

I have a question. Down in the right hand corner it shows who is reading this post.

Right now there are 2 members and 1 guest but only one member name (mine) is showing. Is it only ops that can hide their loginid or can members do it also?

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by i2Glide

I have a question. Down in the right hand corner it shows who is reading this post.

Right now there are 2 members and 1 guest but only one member name (mine) is showing. Is it only ops that can hide their loginid or can members do it also?

You can do it. It's called 'Invisible Mode' in the Edit Options of the User CP.

[hellphish]

Originally Posted by BillPaxton

I have vbulletin, not the latest version but nearly current that we use on an internal intranet - we've only had it around three months but I've learned it pretty well. I am fairly sure no one can read a PM except for the poster and the recipient(s). I *may* be wrong about this, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that a couple of months ago I sold a part to someone that forgot to pay me and did not frequently check email or SC - I was fairly certain I had been ripped off and I had managed to delete the name and address of the person I shipped to and could not remember the username. I asked all of the mods separately to see if they could trace the PMs and each gave the same reply independently - we can't see PMs and if we can, we don't know how. They offered other means to help me find the lost name and address so I have no doubt this advice from each was in earnest. Incidentally, the user in question remembered a week or so later and not only paid but felt so badly about it that they purchased a nice gift card for me that made the transaction less than beneficial! (just goes to show, you can be SO convinced you are right about something and be SO far from the truth that its embarrassing when you see how wrong you were)

Exactly. It was my mistake, I'm embarassed about it, so I deleted the post. Again, appologies.

Originally Posted by hellphish

Exactly. It was my mistake, I'm embarassed about it, so I deleted the post. Again, appologies.

Sometimes, Hellphish, even deleting a post doesn't delete the post. I posted a few nights ago in reference to a censorship concern I had. Almost immediately after posting the message, I thought better of it. I couldn't find where to simply delete the post, so I edited the post, removing all the text, and replacing it with the single phrase: "EDITED AND REMOVED BY POSTER."

I double-checked about 15 minutes later to make sure post was gone. It was. I went to bed.

The next morning, I wake up, get online, come here... and not only is the full text of the original message there, it's gotten a response. Though I should not have been able to, as it was over 3 hours since the original posting, and that posting had received a response, the "Edit" button was available for that message. I deleted it all, again, and left a similar message that I, the poster, had thought better of making that post, that I had earlier completely deleted the text of that post, and that someone else had reposted that post.

Right after that, I got a message from one of the moderators that, was, essentially: "Oh, did you want that deleted? I moved it to another topic heading..." Only when I replied in the affirmative did that moderator remove the posting.

[gbrandwood]

Originally Posted by macgeek

Is the question on my mind

Do you often think in Latin? Cool...

[macgeek]

Originally Posted by gbrandwood

Do you often think in Latin? Cool...

The only Latin I know is a Girl at the Spanish restaurant who makes a mean piyaya

Jonathan

[pam]

Thanks for letting us know, Eric, this should not have happened this way, and may be a glitch. For one thing, once a post is edited and removed by poster, that information should have been gone, as I understand it. Like backspacing over text - that text is history. As a mod, when I see something like that, I'll move the empty shell to the back, or delete it completely. I'm wondering if somehow, once you edited it, the edit didn't get saved - and the normal response on a thread that is about community issues that might be sitting in another forum would be to move it into the other forum.

Sounds like it got worked out, though.

Pam

Originally Posted by Eric Payne

Sometimes, Hellphish, even deleting a post doesn't delete the post. I posted a few nights ago in reference to a censorship concern I had. Almost immediately after posting the message, I thought better of it. I couldn't find where to simply delete the post, so I edited the post, removing all the text, and replacing it with the single phrase: "EDITED AND REMOVED BY POSTER."

I double-checked about 15 minutes later to make sure post was gone. It was. I went to bed.

The next morning, I wake up, get online, come here... and not only is the full text of the original message there, it's gotten a response. Though I should not have been able to, as it was over 3 hours since the original posting, and that posting had received a response, the "Edit" button was available for that message. I deleted it all, again, and left a similar message that I, the poster, had thought better of making that post, that I had earlier completely deleted the text of that post, and that someone else had reposted that post.

Right after that, I got a message from one of the moderators that, was, essentially: "Oh, did you want that deleted? I moved it to another topic heading..." Only when I replied in the affirmative did that moderator remove the posting.