06-28-2017, 10:14 PM | #31 | |
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Battery pack fires are usually caused by either physical damage to one or more cells, or catastrophic failure of one cell - which initiates catastrophic failure in adjacent cells, etc. Neither of those events would be stopped by a fuse. Catastrophic cell failure may occur during charging - but charging is relatively low current, so the fuse wouldn't stop that either. Of course, I do agree that having to send it back to the service center is far preferable than having a fire. |
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06-30-2017, 06:48 AM | #32 |
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I am afraid NineBot will stop make great, durable and safe Segway PTs in end of 2018...
After only cheap and unsafe NineBot stuff will stay on the market. I will do service and repair Gen1/2 und SE until i die... |
06-30-2017, 01:00 PM | #33 |
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This is all sad news. I absolutely LOVE stepping on my i2. In the past, I have wondered if original Segways will become collectors' items. To me, the i2 is an essential part of daily life. I'm glad I didn't spring for an Elite. I love firing up my i2 and knowing it will be ready to take me wherever I want to go. The Ninebots sound scary!
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06-30-2017, 02:31 PM | #34 | |
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Then Ninbot bought them off, and out! It's about money, that's all.....If they can sell an inferior product and make a great profit, they will............If keeping the legacy of Segway alive and well, they will need to make a profit off the "classic" Segway.... You all should be well aware of this practice, it happens every day.....Cheap junk always wins... |
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06-30-2017, 03:29 PM | #35 | |
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Scary? Is it because people are comparing death and injury rates for Elites vs. x2's? I think people are trying to make Ninebots sound scary. As if Segway i2's, x2's, and such, haven't killed people and seriously injured others. Their high price has not made them safe as many have found out the hard way. Advance tech in Ninebots can be frightening, for some. Modern electronics, new batteries, and brushless motors, mean Segway type devices no longer need cost $7,000 or weigh 100+lbs. It is no longer a boutique product bought by a small group of customers and the unlimited budget government. |
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These are quality/performance/safety/cost tradeoffs that the manufacturer made. Understanding them is helpful in evaluating purchase decisions. |
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08-14-2017, 10:01 PM | #37 |
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The two guys "Pob" and "pcarlson" in this thread each said he had a Ninebot Elite. That model wasn't sold in the USA. I have a Ninebot PTR Elite Plus (sold by Segway USA). Ninebot's website claims that the Plus is redundant:
"Dual-Redundancy Supports Rider Safety The safe operation of the Ninebot E+ relies heavily on the unit's dual redundancy. The unit's key features include two sets of components – one for standard operation and the other that remains on standby. In the unlikely event that a malfunction or failure occurs with the original components, the other will take over immediately. At the very same time, the rider receives an update on the unit's status. These types of safety measures are costly to implement, but at Ninebot, safety is our top priority." Also, More4Mini.com, who is a Washington DC Ninebot dealer, also mentions that pcarlson's Error 37 means the battery has no charge, and that it may not happen on the Elite Plus. I would like to post the link, but SegwayChat won't let me. You can Google this to find it: Ninebot Elite Error 37 Jim Nichol |
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Ninebot Elite problems
does anyone know the easiest way to get these frickin solenoid pins out?
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09-13-2017, 11:57 AM | #39 | |
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You don't want things on "standby". And, even if discussing electronic controls, there would be the question of how the "standby" component would know that the original component had failed. And you certainly would not want a second battery to be on "standby". There may actually be dual components, but if so they don't operate that way. |
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09-14-2017, 01:07 PM | #40 |
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Semantics, perhaps. "Standby" is acceptable, as long as the standby systems kick in quickly enough to keep you upright.
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