Gasoline in California

RAY-NER · 04-13-2007, 11:02 PM

If everyone owned a SEGWAY Model i2 as I do, they'd be travelling at the gasoline equivalent rate of 792 miles per gallon. SUV travel with only one driver going two or three miles on a simple errand is the biggest waste of money next to throwing it in the sewer. I'm getting 24 miles for a dime's worth of electricity to charge the battery. At $3.29.9 per gallon in California this morning (CHEVRON, OXNARD), the SEGWAY gets 792 miles per gallon. Beat that, Honda Hybrid! RAY-NER

cmonkey · 04-13-2007, 11:26 PM

I like the fact that I average about 5 miles a day.
That's 5 miles that I'm NOT doing in my car.

And with the mileage my car gets, I figured that's about 100 gallons of gas per year that I'm not buying.

And looking here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtml

I figured I'm directly NOT putting about 2000LBS of CO2 into the air every year.

Granted, a portion of my CO2 is shifted to a power plant, but I'll let somone else do the math.

polo_pro · 04-14-2007, 12:30 AM

cmonkey, I imagine the amount of CO2 generated to move 300 pounds 5 miles electrically is substantially less than the CO2 generated to move 2500 pounds 5 miles via internal combustion. Besides, your electricity may come from wind power or nuclear. I was amazed to see that only 1% of my electricity up here in Sac comes from coal (though 24% did come from natural gas so I'm not that green)!

Now as to safety, I think both cmonkey and rayner have both missed the important lesson that the authorities in Peachtree City, GA are trying to convey to us. The folks down there understand that you don't have to move 2500 pounds of metal around to do simple errands. They want to do the same thing with less mass. But they also want to be safe. So they settled on golf carts that weigh 500 pounds. And see, while golf carts are light, they still afford some protection. Have you seen the golf cart vs brick wall safety videos? Sure the people are a little banged up, but they walked away from head on collision.

See the segway is only 80 pounds...no safety. Did you see the segway vs brick wall video? Oh wait, that's right. The segway rider just steered around it. And then later in the video, the segway rider steered around the out of control golf cart driven by the drunk guy. And then towards the end of that safety video, the segway rider came to a screeching halt in only 2.78 feet when that kid ran out in front of him unexpectedly.

Hmmm....maybe Peachtree City, GA officials need to reconsider this safety issue with the segway, eh? 8^) 8^) 8^) Some one needs to explain to them IT ISN'T A GOLF CART...it's better!

Timezkware Tim · 04-14-2007, 12:10 PM

Somebody please shoot me dept:

Yesterday on Pico Blvd in Beverly Hills I went to a Chevron station and paid 3.99 for high test (91 octane). My 20 gallon tank was already full before I noticed the price.

Tim

cmonkey · 04-14-2007, 06:55 PM

I'm glad my little 'weekender' only has a 12gal tank, cuz it likes to eat 100 octane fuel, and last time I looked, it was $7/gal.
I don't drive it much.

Hwy1Glider · 04-15-2007, 05:39 PM

Evidence mounts that the "sheeple" need to be slapped in the face before recognizing the reality of our shared situation. I see the increasing price of fuel as stronger incentive for more people to understand and, literally, buy into the wonderful world of gliding.

Question for my european friends: what's the current price of fuel in your area? If and when the US price reaches those levels, I believe you'll see many more lightbulbs over the heads of our neighbors.

Oh, and the price for a gallon of 100LL avgas at a recent stop in Oakland: $4.90. Let's see...if the tanks hold a little over 80 gallons of usable fuel...

Socrates · 05-02-2007, 10:57 AM

Well, some European prices....
Today in Austria 1 gallon 95octane fuel costs 5.672 USD and 1 gallon 98octane fuel is at 6.185 USD and 1 gallon diesel is at 4.895 USD.

At the moment I don't know the rates of electricity.

Alex.

Desert_Seg · 05-02-2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socrates

Well, some European prices....
Today in Austria 1 gallon 95octane fuel costs 5.672 USD and 1 gallon 98octane fuel is at 6.185 USD and 1 gallon diesel is at 4.895 USD.

At the moment I don't know the rates of electricity.

Alex.

UAE prices range from $1.495 to $2.175 per gallon. It's cheaper in Saudi and Kuwait...much cheaper.

This is why there are lots of big engined cars on the roads here (myself included, unfortunately).

Steven

hellphish · 05-02-2007, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert_Seg

UAE prices range from $1.495 to $2.175 per gallon. It's cheaper in Saudi and Kuwait...much cheaper.

This is why there are lots of big engined cars on the roads here (myself included, unfortunately).

Steven

Well you need a big engine to run that A/C, right?

Here's a picture I took on sunday.

KSagal · 05-02-2007, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert_Seg

UAE prices range from $1.495 to $2.175 per gallon. It's cheaper in Saudi and Kuwait...much cheaper.

This is why there are lots of big engined cars on the roads here (myself included, unfortunately).

Steven

I am confused. Steven, are you saying you are a big engined car? I thought you were a segway dealer...

04-13-2007, 11:02 PM	#1
RAY-NER Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TAMPA, FLORIDA Posts: 120	Gasoline in California If everyone owned a SEGWAY Model i2 as I do, they'd be travelling at the gasoline equivalent rate of 792 miles per gallon. SUV travel with only one driver going two or three miles on a simple errand is the biggest waste of money next to throwing it in the sewer. I'm getting 24 miles for a dime's worth of electricity to charge the battery. At $3.29.9 per gallon in California this morning (CHEVRON, OXNARD), the SEGWAY gets 792 miles per gallon. Beat that, Honda Hybrid! RAY-NER __________________ KEEP ON TRUCKIN'

04-13-2007, 11:26 PM	#2
cmonkey Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Orange, CA, USA. Posts: 1,064	5 miles a day on a Segway I like the fact that I average about 5 miles a day. That's 5 miles that I'm NOT doing in my car. And with the mileage my car gets, I figured that's about 100 gallons of gas per year that I'm not buying. And looking here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtml I figured I'm directly NOT putting about 2000LBS of CO2 into the air every year. Granted, a portion of my CO2 is shifted to a power plant, but I'll let somone else do the math. __________________ Charriot of Fur - Onward!

04-14-2007, 12:30 AM	#3
polo_pro Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA, USA. Posts: 2,608	CO2 emissions and safety cmonkey, I imagine the amount of CO2 generated to move 300 pounds 5 miles electrically is substantially less than the CO2 generated to move 2500 pounds 5 miles via internal combustion. Besides, your electricity may come from wind power or nuclear. I was amazed to see that only 1% of my electricity up here in Sac comes from coal (though 24% did come from natural gas so I'm not that green)! Now as to safety, I think both cmonkey and rayner have both missed the important lesson that the authorities in Peachtree City, GA are trying to convey to us. The folks down there understand that you don't have to move 2500 pounds of metal around to do simple errands. They want to do the same thing with less mass. But they also want to be safe. So they settled on golf carts that weigh 500 pounds. And see, while golf carts are light, they still afford some protection. Have you seen the golf cart vs brick wall safety videos? Sure the people are a little banged up, but they walked away from head on collision. See the segway is only 80 pounds...no safety. Did you see the segway vs brick wall video? Oh wait, that's right. The segway rider just steered around it. And then later in the video, the segway rider steered around the out of control golf cart driven by the drunk guy. And then towards the end of that safety video, the segway rider came to a screeching halt in only 2.78 feet when that kid ran out in front of him unexpectedly. Hmmm....maybe Peachtree City, GA officials need to reconsider this safety issue with the segway, eh? 8^) 8^) 8^) Some one needs to explain to them IT ISN'T A GOLF CART...it's better!

04-14-2007, 06:55 PM	#5
cmonkey Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Orange, CA, USA. Posts: 1,064	boo hoo I'm glad my little 'weekender' only has a 12gal tank, cuz it likes to eat 100 octane fuel, and last time I looked, it was $7/gal. I don't drive it much. __________________ Charriot of Fur - Onward!

04-15-2007, 05:39 PM	#6
Hwy1Glider New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12	Evidence mounts that the "sheeple" need to be slapped in the face before recognizing the reality of our shared situation. I see the increasing price of fuel as stronger incentive for more people to understand and, literally, buy into the wonderful world of gliding. Question for my european friends: what's the current price of fuel in your area? If and when the US price reaches those levels, I believe you'll see many more lightbulbs over the heads of our neighbors. Oh, and the price for a gallon of 100LL avgas at a recent stop in Oakland: $4.90. Let's see...if the tanks hold a little over 80 gallons of usable fuel... __________________ The Craigmeister, SR22 Pilot

04-14-2007, 12:10 PM	#4
Timezkware Tim Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 941	Somebody please shoot me dept: Yesterday on Pico Blvd in Beverly Hills I went to a Chevron station and paid 3.99 for high test (91 octane). My 20 gallon tank was already full before I noticed the price. Tim

05-02-2007, 10:57 AM	#7
Socrates Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: , , Austria. Posts: 154	Well, some European prices.... Today in Austria 1 gallon 95octane fuel costs 5.672 USD and 1 gallon 98octane fuel is at 6.185 USD and 1 gallon diesel is at 4.895 USD. At the moment I don't know the rates of electricity. Alex.

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