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Old 01-31-2008, 06:13 PM   #21
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OK, guys, please clean up the language a bit, even if this is a thread about the use of language. You all can discuss it all you want, but please use appropriate PG language.
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:07 PM   #22
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OK, guys, please clean up the language a bit, even if this is a thread about the use of language. You all can discuss it all you want, but please use appropriate PG language.
PG or G?

In standard MPAA ratings an occasional "c**p" would be just fine.

http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPAA_film_rating_system
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:18 PM   #23
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PG or G?

In standard MPAA ratings an occasional "c**p" would be just fine.

http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPAA_film_rating_system

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Old 01-31-2008, 07:26 PM   #24
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We don't run SC based on the Motion Picture Association's idea of what is appropriate.

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We don't run SC based on the Motion Picture Association's idea of what is appropriate.

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Ok, you had just used one of their ratings though so I was really more curious as to what you may or may not have thought the term meant.

I'm perfectly fine with however you folks wanna run your web site. I'm just a guess in your house. But if I'm going to play be the rules I kinda need to know what they are and if people say it's a "PG" site, that actually means something entirely different than how you seem to be running it.
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:37 PM   #26
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Actually, I think the term PG has probably made it into the general public now to the extent that people don't think of it always with MPAA. Maybe we're actually talking about G here - -

I think, as a whole, we're pretty intelligent, somewhat intellectual people who can have an enlightening, interesting conversations (and even disagreements) without the use of swear or profane words. I may be more liberal in my personal life, but I do try to remember that the forum is also populated with teens and pre-teens who are fascinated by the technology as much as we are.

That said, I wish we had the software that would allow us to change certain words into other words. I think that would be fun. Some of the examples that were given on an earlier thread of this particular topic were really a hoot!.

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Well that's good to know! I didn't think it would be possible to get arrested for swearing in CA! I'm not saying that if you swear at someone and then get beat up that you have a reason to complain because you don't. All I was reacting to was the post that said that you could get arrested for saying god **** and that is crossing a line I do not feel safe crossing!

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I find it interesting that you feel it is reasonable and expectable that a citizen may beat you up for saying an offensive statement, specifically to take the Lord's name in Vain, which I believe is against the commandments. You do not seem to feel it is reasonable for the law to act upon you for doing it, but that citizens can.

I share with you that it seems a bit much to arrest you for saying somethng offensive, but once a cop tells you to cut it out, I can see that as what you should do, or risk legal problems...

I do not share your opinion that it is ever reasonable for a non official to 'beat me up' and expect to get away with it.

Regardless of what I say, and regardless of what legal problems I make for myself, assault and battery is still illegal, and there is no way to justify that...

Under the law, the only defense I can imagine is that the offending utterer would have to have been deemed as threatening the health or safety of the batterer, with his words. That is a stretch.
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Old 01-31-2008, 11:34 PM   #28
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I am starting to rethink moving to CA in a few years. I have never heard of something so atrocious as being able to be arrested for saying god ####. You see this phrase does not qualify as being protected under the freedom of speech, however it is also (at least not in WI) not at all illegal to say or scream or whatever in public! Please, someone, tell me that I cannot be arrested for saying this in a CA mall or anywhere in CA public. Otherwise I will choose a less hitleresque place to live!



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Jeremy, it's not a CA law. I don't know where you got that.

If you use offensive language in a threatening way anywhere in the USA, you can be arrested. I'm not talking about stubbing your toe at a mall and shouting "GD IT", I'm talking about using it in a threatening tone towards someone anywhere; including Madison. The point I was making, is that the Freedom of Speech amendment doesn't mean anyone can say anything to anybody anytime they like. Some people don't understand this.

The pointis, if you use swearwords that you know will offend people, legal or not, it's rude. Masking words that are obvious do the same thing. Any consideate person wouldn't do this.

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PS: You ought to consider your position on California. 36.5 million Americans live here; millions, like me, who moved here from other places like Florida, New Jersey, and Wisconsin. Using really insulting terms like "Hitleresque" is really something you should think twice about before you hit the send button.
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That said, I wish we had the software that would allow us to change certain words into other words. I think that would be fun. Some of the examples that were given on an earlier thread of this particular topic were really a hoot!.

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Some of the other family boards I post on changes B****H to "female dog" after you hit send. People have to put their thining caps on there and use other vocabulary.

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Jeremy, it's not a CA law. I don't know where you got that.

If you use offensive language in a threatening way anywhere in the USA, you can be arrested. I'm not talking about stubbing your toe at a mall, I'm talking about using it in a threatening tone anywhere; including Madison. The point I was making, is that the Freedom of Speech amendment doesn't mean anyone can say anything to anybody anytime they like. Some people don't understand this.

The pointis, if you use swearwords that you know will offend people, legal or not, it's rude. Masking words that are obvious do the same thing. Any consideate person wouldn't do this.

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PS: You ought to consider your position on California. 36.5 million Americans live here; millions, like me, who moved here from other places like Florida, New Jersey, and Wisconsin. Using really insulting terms like "Hitleresque" is really something you should think twice about before you hit the send button.
I guess now I semi-understand you. I do not know however how the term god **** could be considered threatening. Offensive yes, threatening no! Now I simply said that if you could get arrested for saying god **** in a mall that is , in my opinion hitleresque and could never happen in madison! If indeed your example of using god **** in a mall and getting arrested really can happen in CA then I stand by my opinion that wherever you live in CA is hitleresque. If it cannot happen then I do not think such a thing of the state.

I just wanted a clarification! Now if you actually threaten someone that my friend, by all legal definitions is assault and you can and should be arrested for that. If you offend someone but do not threaten them then that, in my opinion is between you and them assuming it doesn't cross certain lines (racism, discrimination, harassment, etc.)!

As far as your post Karl, I said something in which, after reading it again, I even confused myself. I did not mean that if a person offends someone it is OK fo them to be physically assaulted. I chose words that were different than what I actually meant. That was my fault. I think if someone is offended by someone else it is there responsibility to call that person out, albeit, in a respectful and constructive way.

For that same person to beat the person who offended them up would not be acceptable in my mind. It would, however, not seem too abnormal to me. That is what I was trying to say!


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