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mellenger · 06-05-2003, 02:12 PM

I took the video down so everyone can just cool it.

This was before I knew that anyone had seen the first video and I was in blissful anonymity. I’m trying hard to believe that segways are just a new form of transportation and can replace a second car but I can’t. They are just too much fun and go too slow to really be useful for transportation. So that leaves recreation, and for that I think they are so much fun. Has anyone tried Segway Polo? Wow that would be a lot of fun. And the patent drawing with the single wheel, wow.

Riding no hands is really easy and natural, I’m sure most owners have done it. Holding a video camera with your right hand and steering with your left works well too… almost as if they designed the steering grip on the left side for a reason. I’m sure there is a model without a handlebar in the works, it’s too natural of a progression to ignore.

I think Segways were designed and marketed with this higher utopian purpose to rid the world of pollution etc. but they ended up, for the meantime anyways, and really fun toys that give you a new experience. And if that is all they ever are that is still an amazing accomplishment.

If pt really cared so much about bad press hurting the public’s acceptance of segways then he shouldn’t have started this thread. I’m not a battle-hardened forum poster boy and I’m having a tough time dealing with this blankety-blank-blank.

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BruceWright · 06-05-2003, 02:30 PM

Hello Andrew.

You say that Segways are good for recreation, and I think they are too. All of that stuff is fun. Yeah, I've done no-hands.

But there's a difference between shredding it up at a skateboard park, and hot-dogging it in a public park. Weaving around folks who have every right to enjoy a park without the threat of skatepunks on motor-scooters.

Forget about us, what about those folks in the park?
You don't have to believe in a utopian vision for a Segway to show common courtesy to the people you share the park with.

Ill intentions or not, all actions have consequences.

People fight to ban Segways from my city. I haven't videotaped my slow, gentle, friendly daily commute to work. But folks watching your violent ride will share it with others. Bad news travels fast. Nobody wants to see my boring gentle ride to work, but everyone loves a car-crash.

Glad you didn't get arrested when you rode illegally in a park.

I'd like to not have to break the law in order to ride my Segway.

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

stevew · 06-05-2003, 03:03 PM

With all the hotdogging they do I'm amazed at how sedate and nonplussed the other folks in the park were. They barely seemed to notice the Segways! Is this just how Canadians are, sort of nonchalant? I don't know, I've only been there once.

mellenger · 06-05-2003, 03:50 PM

We did have people notice us on that ride. Jack warned us that people would stop us and ask about it. We probably spend at least 1/2 of our 90 min talking to people and handing out flyers for Segway Rentals. I must have handed out 50 flyers easily. Everyone was really interested in trying them out.

When we drove by people we slowed down and didn't freak anyone out. Just the interesting stuff made the video. I filmed about 25min of footage and it's down to a 3 min video, so you can imagine there is a lot of just riding around not bothering anyone.

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pt · 06-05-2003, 03:53 PM

that's good to hear no one seems to be freaked.

did jack ask you or pay you to hand out the flyers?

were the flyers in the bag?

i kinda wish jack woulda warned you about other stuff :-]

cheers,
pt

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segway ht journal:
http://www.bookofseg.com

other stuff:
http://www.flashenabled.com

BruceWright · 06-05-2003, 04:18 PM

I kinda wish you would make a video of the other 22 minutes of boring stuff.

:-)

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

hubbahbubbah · 06-05-2003, 04:29 PM

I think Andrew actually brings up a good point about the recreational use of Segways. Fun can be an end in itself, after all.

Dave Winer, a blogger and tech visionary whom I greatly respect, had an an article way back, when the Segway was released, speculating that it may end up as a recreational device, more than anything else. I don't see that happening right now, but I think it's an interesting perspective:

http://davenet.userland.com/2001/12/...WinerOnASegway

What do you all think?

Hubbah

::: http://stinkyshorts.blogspot.com :::

pam · 06-05-2003, 05:59 PM

Well, when something isn't out, you can speculate a lot about what the ultimate value of it will prove to be. And even from this point, it's speculation, somewhat. *So far* it has shown itself to be a short distance car replacement in the majority of cases here on SC. But we're a small percentage of the entire Segway population.
Who knows?
Pam

GlideMaster · 06-05-2003, 06:09 PM

Where is this so called video?

gotseg · 06-05-2003, 06:14 PM

Yes, where is this video? Can someone put it up on geocities or something?

gotseg?

06-05-2003, 02:12 PM	#11
mellenger New Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada. Posts: 9	I took the video down so everyone can just cool it. This was before I knew that anyone had seen the first video and I was in blissful anonymity. I’m trying hard to believe that segways are just a new form of transportation and can replace a second car but I can’t. They are just too much fun and go too slow to really be useful for transportation. So that leaves recreation, and for that I think they are so much fun. Has anyone tried Segway Polo? Wow that would be a lot of fun. And the patent drawing with the single wheel, wow. Riding no hands is really easy and natural, I’m sure most owners have done it. Holding a video camera with your right hand and steering with your left works well too… almost as if they designed the steering grip on the left side for a reason. I’m sure there is a model without a handlebar in the works, it’s too natural of a progression to ignore. I think Segways were designed and marketed with this higher utopian purpose to rid the world of pollution etc. but they ended up, for the meantime anyways, and really fun toys that give you a new experience. And if that is all they ever are that is still an amazing accomplishment. If pt really cared so much about bad press hurting the public’s acceptance of segways then he shouldn’t have started this thread. I’m not a battle-hardened forum poster boy and I’m having a tough time dealing with this blankety-blank-blank. ======== http://m3mm.com

06-05-2003, 02:30 PM	#12
BruceWright Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sherman Oaks (Los Angeles), California, USA. Posts: 3,296	Hello Andrew. You say that Segways are good for recreation, and I think they are too. All of that stuff is fun. Yeah, I've done no-hands. But there's a difference between shredding it up at a skateboard park, and hot-dogging it in a public park. Weaving around folks who have every right to enjoy a park without the threat of skatepunks on motor-scooters. Forget about us, what about those folks in the park? You don't have to believe in a utopian vision for a Segway to show common courtesy to the people you share the park with. Ill intentions or not, all actions have consequences. People fight to ban Segways from my city. I haven't videotaped my slow, gentle, friendly daily commute to work. But folks watching your violent ride will share it with others. Bad news travels fast. Nobody wants to see my boring gentle ride to work, but everyone loves a car-crash. Glad you didn't get arrested when you rode illegally in a park. I'd like to not have to break the law in order to ride my Segway. -Bruce Wright Segway: Vehicle of Dream

06-05-2003, 03:03 PM	#13
stevew Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Belmont, CA, USA. Posts: 586	With all the hotdogging they do I'm amazed at how sedate and nonplussed the other folks in the park were. They barely seemed to notice the Segways! Is this just how Canadians are, sort of nonchalant? I don't know, I've only been there once.

06-05-2003, 03:50 PM	#14
mellenger New Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada. Posts: 9	We did have people notice us on that ride. Jack warned us that people would stop us and ask about it. We probably spend at least 1/2 of our 90 min talking to people and handing out flyers for Segway Rentals. I must have handed out 50 flyers easily. Everyone was really interested in trying them out. When we drove by people we slowed down and didn't freak anyone out. Just the interesting stuff made the video. I filmed about 25min of footage and it's down to a 3 min video, so you can imagine there is a lot of just riding around not bothering anyone. ======== http://m3mm.com

06-05-2003, 03:53 PM	#15
pt Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: seattle, wa, USA. Posts: 3,000	that's good to hear no one seems to be freaked. did jack ask you or pay you to hand out the flyers? were the flyers in the bag? i kinda wish jack woulda warned you about other stuff :-] cheers, pt ====================== segway ht journal: http://www.bookofseg.com other stuff: http://www.flashenabled.com

06-05-2003, 04:18 PM	#16
BruceWright Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sherman Oaks (Los Angeles), California, USA. Posts: 3,296	I kinda wish you would make a video of the other 22 minutes of boring stuff. :-) -Bruce Wright Segway: Vehicle of Dream

06-05-2003, 04:29 PM	#17
hubbahbubbah Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA, . Posts: 313	I think Andrew actually brings up a good point about the recreational use of Segways. Fun can be an end in itself, after all. Dave Winer, a blogger and tech visionary whom I greatly respect, had an an article way back, when the Segway was released, speculating that it may end up as a recreational device, more than anything else. I don't see that happening right now, but I think it's an interesting perspective: http://davenet.userland.com/2001/12/...WinerOnASegway What do you all think? Hubbah ::: http://stinkyshorts.blogspot.com :::

06-05-2003, 05:59 PM	#18
pam Last of the Early 30 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yelm, WA Posts: 4,679	Well, when something isn't out, you can speculate a lot about what the ultimate value of it will prove to be. And even from this point, it's speculation, somewhat. So far it has shown itself to be a short distance car replacement in the majority of cases here on SC. But we're a small percentage of the entire Segway population. Who knows? Pam

06-05-2003, 06:09 PM	#19
GlideMaster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. George Ut. and Chicago, Illinois, Posts: 1,776	Where is this so called video?

06-05-2003, 06:14 PM	#20
gotseg Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Burke, VA, USA. Posts: 795	Yes, where is this video? Can someone put it up on geocities or something? gotseg?

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