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Originally Posted by jryan
Thank you Karl, I think simply what I meant by lean is this! Five-flags has his opinion of what the truth may be, I have mine. Chances are when there actually are FACTs, when all reasonalble allegations have been expelled and either proven true or false, one of our opinions will be correct! That is what I mean by lean! Five flags has the opinion (or so it seems) that Bush won legitimately! I respect that opinion, but disagree and believe there was cheating involved. Eventually it will prove one of our opinions is correct!
I have not seen enough confirmed evidence to suggest that he won legitimately! I have not seen enough confirmed evidence either that he cheated! There are allegations both ways but I have not really seen it investigated and confirmed by someone of a bipartisan nature or really anyone who has no benefit from lying! A time will come where all allegations will be put to rest with fact on the election issue and several others! Until then I hold my stance that there are no facts just opinions!
Jeremy Ryan
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The real truth is you will never really know the truth. Most everyone who reports the facts are either lying or are reporting what they honestly believe is the truth, but has already been manipulated...
And the point is moot. If George Bush were to have been found out after the fact that there was some irregularity, like maybe, a local democratic county government that designed a butterfly ballot, then later claimed foul, while forgetting to tell everyone that the whole thing was originally a Democratic party situation...
ANyway, if an irregularity gets claimed, so what? If the facts lean toward Jeremy, or toward where he wants it to have been, what then? Will they forget whoever is president and make Al Gore president? Or maybe John Kerry? NO. History will march on, with maybe a footnote, maybe not...
There are still people who do not think we landed on the Moon. There are people that think professional wrestling is on the level. The world is full of all types of people who believe and disbeleive all types of facts...
Believeing a fact or not believing it, does not change it's status as a fact.