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Old 06-22-2018, 06:42 PM   #12
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Default UPDATE - one good machine!

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Originally Posted by Philip View Post
Assuming you have a couple of HT i170s, there is a very, very good chance than one or both units are still operational. There is also a good chance they've had their software upgraded so they can use Lithium battery packs. As Michael said, if they have they should have a circular, yellow 'Flyguy' Segway logo stuck to the cover plate, visible when you lift off the grey foot mat.

The NiMH packs were manufactured at least 13 years agp, and will not be able to power the machine, sorry.

If I were you, I'd ask on SegwayChat if another Segway PT owner located near you would mind if you visited and swapped on their Lithium packs for a minute to two to discover if your machines are operational (and compatible with Lithium). If you buy a $20 plug-in power meter you can also determine if the built-in battery charger on each machine is functional (we call this part the "CSB" which is short for Control Shaft Base).

If your machine(s) start up and the CSBs work then you know that you can get them running for the cost of new Lithium packs (or re-packed NiMH). With functioning battery packs your i170's will be just as useful and capable and fun to ride as they day they rolled off the production line. The first-generation Segway PTs are fun to ride!

If not, you'll learn if they are not software updated (and therefore you need to take a punt on getting a pair of NiMH's re-packed to go any further) and/or they either need a replacement CSBs (available on eBay), or they are deeply faulty and only the factory can repair them. At this point only you can decide on whether or not the costs of going forward are worth it to you.

For what it is worth, my guess is that it is VERY GOOD chance you'll be able to make one functional machine out of the two you have there, and there is a GOOD likelihood both are still ok (once you take care of the battery issue).

All the best!
Philip, your hunch was correct. At least one machine was good The other tested to have the 'deep fault' in the circuit board.
I am fortunate to have a highly respected Segway Authorized Dealer not too far from me in Annapolis. The guy who runs the place, Rich, is great. Extremely helpful and knowledgeable. He was able to test both units and we determined that Segway 1 is 'pristine' - with the exception of the batteries, while Segway 2 had the 'deep fault' that you refer to.
Rich tested and confirmed the handlebar kit and the CSB to Segway 2 to be fully functional. Given that they saw very little use, I plan to sell them to hopefully recoup my outlay for new batteries.
Any suggestions on how to find folks looking for a complete handlebar assembly and a CSB? Both are near mint and tested to be fully functional by Segway of Annapolis. Hypertronic connectors.
Thanks,
JP
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