>If they hold 3 volts or so for a couple of weeks then they might be usable
thats a great point, REALLY good to know.
I got those 2 groups up to 1.8v, i slightly pushed up current after hitting 1.2v to get there. It took about 3 hrs. By the time I removed the charger clips to charge the other cell group, the voltage has already come back down to .84v , so I think these 2 groups, 12 cells total I will just replace them all. I will get those 12 cells for us$45 delivered on ebay, so now I will start to remove the tabs, remove the cells, and since it's only 12 cells, I rather not buy a spot welder for this, I think i'll try to just solder the new one's in .. wish me luck
and thanks again for your kind support and help here.