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pt
12-07-2002, 03:08 AM
okay folks, as promised!!!

http://www.bookofseg.com/

enjoy, please let me know what ya think!

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com




BruceWright
12-07-2002, 05:37 AM
Bravo!

Wow, what a beautiful website. More than a couple times with the video I had the distinct feeling I was right there with you. If I couldn't have a Segway for christmas, you have given me the next best thing. Thank you! Happy riding!

Casey
12-07-2002, 08:20 AM
Great job!

With my 56K modem it will take me awhile to explore your site fully, and then you'll probably change it 5 times before I get through it.:D

No problem though, keep up the good work.

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n/a
12-07-2002, 09:51 AM
Excellent job on the site pt. In spite off all that I have read about the Segway your personal account was still very interesting. I havent gone through everyting yet though.

There are somethings on your site that I will try to get a discussion on here.

steve1501
12-07-2002, 12:08 PM
PT - the site is impressive. Congratulations. Keep up the good work.

charmed
12-07-2002, 12:14 PM
Absolutely brilliant. Well done, pt (and fg!)!

Especially like the pics of the innards, gears, etc. Takes it from in-the-box magic to darn fine engineering.

Your site will sell more units than Segway's!

Casey
12-07-2002, 12:26 PM
I can't help but wonder about the activation ring. Not having seen a Seg, I had a picture in my mind of putting the key in a keyhole similar to a car. How is the key used to activate the Seg, that a ring will also work?

Now I am picturing something similar to a ring a person might wear that would allow only that wearer to fire a gun. These exist also but I haven't seen one. Looks like Google time again.

pt
12-07-2002, 12:44 PM
the "ring" is something i made, i happen to like the idea of wearable security.

the "keys" are just a metal disc with a chip inside, you place it in a recessed area for about a sec, and then remove it- the unit turns on (provided it's your key) and then you're good to go.

here's a video that has the key:
http://www.bookofseg.com/videos/keys.wmv

cheers,
pt

quote:Originally posted by Casey

I can't help but wonder about the activation ring. Not having seen a Seg, I had a picture in my mind of putting the key in a keyhole similar to a car. How is the key used to activate the Seg, that a ring will also work?

Now I am picturing something similar to a ring a person might wear that would allow only that wearer to fire a gun. These exist also but I haven't seen one. Looks like Google time again.


http://www.bookofseg.com

Casey
12-07-2002, 12:46 PM
OK, my wife has a key to the ATM machine she is responsible for, and it looks identical to the Segway key on your site. Now that she has explained its operation I realize it is only used momentarily to activate the lock. That being the case, I understand how the ring will work. Nice idea.

JosephM
12-07-2002, 05:03 PM
Beautiful. Hope for the best.

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GlideMaster
12-07-2002, 08:24 PM
pt great pictures and video. I noticed that your Segway was delivered in two parts. The Seg I ride was delivered as one piece with the control shaft already connected but just lovered all the way. I have had the control shaft apart before just to check out the long and short cables in the shaft that they showed us in training. Hope you enjoyed your training. I had a ball in training because I had already been riding four days before they gave the training plus 28 years of skiing didn't hurt. Check out my pictures on the album section. You should try and get one of the baskets that attach to the front. They even have bottle holders on them.
<center>
Have Seg Will Travel

REMEMBER:
Respopnsible Riders Ride Segway
and
Segway Riders Ride Responsibly

Segway, The Mind Changer</center>

quote:Originally posted by pt

okay folks, as promised!!!

http://www.bookofseg.com/

enjoy, please let me know what ya think!

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com

Brooster
12-07-2002, 10:41 PM
Wow! Awesome work! A lot to look at ... thanks pt!

Brooster

pt
12-08-2002, 12:08 AM
yep, 2 pieces...yah, training was such a blast loved it. my fav was the big ole ramp.

a basket huh? they said those will be available in march, i wonder if i begged them- if they'd let me buy one earlier.

cheers,
pt

quote:Originally posted by weskifm

pt great pictures and video. I noticed that your Segway was delivered in two parts. The Seg I ride was delivered as one piece with the control shaft already connected but just lovered all the way. I have had the control shaft apart before just to check out the long and short cables in the shaft that they showed us in training. Hope you enjoyed your training. I had a ball in training because I had already been riding four days before they gave the training plus 28 years of skiing didn't hurt. Check out my pictures on the album section. You should try and get one of the baskets that attach to the front. They even have bottle holders on them.

http://www.bookofseg.com

pt
12-08-2002, 12:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by Brooster

Wow! Awesome work! A lot to look at ... thanks pt!

thanks for the kind words, it's been so much fun.

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com

Blinky
12-08-2002, 02:08 AM
I think its great that you have been able to chare your experience with all of us online. I was wondering if you address some of the questions that many of us have been discussing for the past 3-4months.

One of the questions has been about the stopping distance of a segway.

don't answer it here, I will find the thread for that one.


I am sure people on this forum have questions of their own..

pt
12-08-2002, 02:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by BlinkyI was wondering if you address some of the questions that many of us have been discussing for the past 3-4months. One of the questions has been about the stopping distance of a segway. don't answer it here, I will find the thread for that one. I am sure people on this forum have questions of their own..

were people asking how quick can it stop? well, it can stop faster than i can on foot when i walk fast or run. if you're using the black key most stopping is almost instant, on the yellow and red if you know the proper techniques (as shown in training) you can stop *very* short. in my house for demos, i've got on the red key toward the living room very fast and stop right away, it's *really* responsive. hmm, maybe i'll make a video.

cheers,
pt


http://www.bookofseg.com

Blinky
12-08-2002, 02:22 AM
Thanks PT,

But many of us have been looking for an estimated number figure,

Maybe you can read this thread over and maybe it can give you some ideas on this topic..

http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=411&whichpage=1

pt
12-08-2002, 02:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by BlinkyBut many of us have been looking for an estimated number figure, Maybe you can read this thread over and maybe it can give you some ideas on this topic..http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=411&whichpage=1

well, i stop on the sidewalk when i walk at the same rate when i'm on the ht. in open areas, i can stop faster on the ht than if i run as fast as i can and try to stop.

i'll try to do some measurements, what type of estimates are folks looking for?

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com

Brooster
12-08-2002, 02:18 PM
PT, I've had a chance to thoroughly comb through your site, and I'm really impressed with the wealth of information you've made available to us.

Something I'd be particularly interested in--and perhaps you're planning on sharing this later--would be hearing more about any of your classroom/lecture experiences. Anything you feel you can share about the origins of the "vision," the development timeline, the building of the team, the stories behind the prototypes, etc., would be great.

Thanks again for your outstanding work. I understand what you said about feeling new neurons reaching out ... I felt the same thing after riding here in Chicago last June. It seemingly becomes a natural extension of your body's pre-existing circuitry.

Brooster

n/a
12-08-2002, 02:30 PM
quote:i'll try to do some measurements, what type of estimates are folks looking for?

U could do a usefull service to us if u could do some breaking experiments and some "crash tests" pt. How about getting someone on a bike to do comparisons with regard to breaking at different speeds and different surfaces?

I also wonder about the warning label regarding slippery surfaces. I thought Segway was better at balancing than on foot? Have u ridden one on ice? How did it perform?

How about telling us how the Segway stops if it bumps into low lying objects? There has been a lot of discussion about Segway bumping into a small child or animal. What do u have to say about that? Dont hurt any kids while performing these experiments though.;)

pt
12-08-2002, 02:31 PM
thanks for the kind words.

-as far as classroom/lecture experiences go, after everyone goes through their training (the contest winners) i'll post a bit more about that. the diaries on my site have some good stuff though.
-vision, development timeline, teams and stories of prototypes are not too plentiful, but i bet i can share a few soon.

thanks again, everyone has been great here.

cheers,
pt

quote:Originally posted by Brooster

PT, I've had a chance to thoroughly comb through your site, and I'm really impressed with the wealth of information you've made available to us.

Something I'd be particularly interested in--and perhaps you're planning on sharing this later--would be hearing more about any of your classroom/lecture experiences. Anything you feel you can share about the origins of the "vision," the development timeline, the building of the team, the stories behind the prototypes, etc., would be great.

Thanks again for your outstanding work. I understand what you said about feeling new neurons reaching out ... I felt the same thing after riding here in Chicago last June. It seemingly becomes a natural extension of your body's pre-existing circuitry.

Brooster


http://www.bookofseg.com

GlideMaster
12-08-2002, 06:31 PM
pt we have been through this thing about stopping before. I've posted several replys explaining that the stopping on the Segway is beyond reproach or just plain excellent. BUT I've stated before you just cannot measure the stopping distance that easily. Though the Seg comes to a stop pretty fast it AINT instant. If you are using the black key and going full tilt it is going to take you a little distance to stop. I've done some testing outside and tried to stop it on a dime. DO NOT TRY TO DO IT. Because if it skips or skids you might end up on your behind or the hell with the rider lord forbid your Seg might get trashed.

<center>Have Seg Will Travel

REMEMBER:
Responsible Riders Ride Segway
and
Segway Riders Ride Responsibly

Segway, The Mind Changer</center>

quote:Originally posted by pt

quote:Originally posted by BlinkyI was wondering if you address some of the questions that many of us have been discussing for the past 3-4months. One of the questions has been about the stopping distance of a segway. don't answer it here, I will find the thread for that one. I am sure people on this forum have questions of their own..

were people asking how quick can it stop? well, it can stop faster than i can on foot when i walk fast or run. if you're using the black key most stopping is almost instant, on the yellow and red if you know the proper techniques (as shown in training) you can stop *very* short. in my house for demos, i've got on the red key toward the living room very fast and stop right away, it's *really* responsive. hmm, maybe i'll make a video.

cheers,
pt


http://www.bookofseg.com

JosephM
12-08-2002, 06:34 PM
But compared to killing or hurting someone, I'd rather have me on my *** the the segway in a puddle of mud rather than hurting someone.

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Blinky
12-08-2002, 06:42 PM
Weskifm writes,
quote:pt we have been through this thing about stopping before. I've posted several replys explaining that the stopping on the Segway is beyond reproach or just plain excellent. BUT I've stated before you just cannot measure the stopping distance that easily. Though the Seg comes to a stop pretty fast it AINT instant. If you are using the black key and going full tilt it is going to take you a little distance to stop. I've done some testing outside and tried to stop it on a dime. DO NOT TRY TO DO IT. Because if it skips or skids you might end up on your behind or the hell with the rider lord forbid your Seg might get trashed.
If PT has someone to work with his, he should be alright. Did you have anyone help you while you were experimenting Weskifm? Besides, all we are asking is for an estimate stopping distance, feet or inches - etc.

No one wants anyone to get hurt doing this. If PT has a problem with it I am sure he would let us know and then we can ask the next person to try it.

JosephM
12-08-2002, 06:47 PM
Here's an experement:

Measure the stopping distance of each key after going this far:
-10 ft
-20 ft
-30 ft

So you'll spot after a certain spot once going 10 ft, 20 ft, etc on each key.

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GlideMaster
12-08-2002, 07:09 PM
Blinky it has nothing to do with someone working with him. If he trys to see how fast he can make it stop he may not be able to keep it from sliding or skiddding. Plus just because I might stop it in 8 feet does not mean someone else can stop it in 8 feet. I might put more effort into my stop than they are willing to try. Or they might put too much into it and do the unthinkable. Plus the surface I stop on may be a little different from the one they stop on. When you get to ride one you try and do the test. Maybe you'll understand by then.

<center>Have Seg Will Travel

REMEMBER:
Responsible Riders Ride Segway
and
Segway Riders Ride Responsibly

Segway, The Mind Changer</center>




quote:Originally posted by Joseph M

But compared to killing or hurting someone, I'd rather have me on my *** the the segway in a puddle of mud rather than hurting someone.

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n/a
12-08-2002, 09:37 PM
quote:If he trys to see how fast he can make it stop he may not be able to keep it from sliding or skiddding. Plus just because I might stop it in 8 feet does not mean someone else can stop it in 8 feet. I might put more effort into my stop than they are willing to try. Or they might put too much into it and do the unthinkable. Plus the surface I stop on may be a little different from the one they stop on. When you get to ride one you try and do the test. Maybe you'll understand by then.

Weskifm, do u trust the capabilites of Segway or dont u? I would have no hesitation in testing the stopping distance on any bike. Segway is supposed to be safer. So why worry? pt's skill in making a stop would be very usefull info for us all. We know he has limited experience.

pt
12-08-2002, 09:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by LawrenceWeskifm, do u trust the capabilites of Segway or dont u? I would have no hesitation in testing the stopping distance on any bike. Segway is supposed to be safer. So why worry? pt's skill in making a stop would be very usefull info for us all. We know he has limited experience.


i did the 2 day training, i've been riding for a week or so, i avoid pedestrian areas (my choice and my route allows that). i can stop very well but i never go fast enough really to need a "hard stop" i think "anything" is safer if you're motivated to operate it properly, from bikes, to segways to anything. for someone to do unscientific testing outside a lab environment seems irresponsible and the results won't be accurate depending on who performs the testing, it's more about the rider and conditions-- not a machine feature, that's just my opinion.

all that said, from what i tell i can stop faster on my segway than i can with my car, bike, rollerblades, skateboard, foot with equal speeds, this is my unscientific observation.

i think the important thing is that the training you need to take reinforces common sense and good judgement. i'm glad it's required.

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com

GlideMaster
12-08-2002, 10:27 PM
pt thanks for your info. I've been trying to get this across to some members that none of us is set up to do any kind of testing. As I've indicated in so many postings when they ask me for figures, I try to get them to understand the results would not be accurate at all. I try to get them to understand that they have to ride to understand this stopping thing. I always ride at a safe speed, a speed which I feel comfortable at under whatever conditions I'm riding. DO NOT LET THEM CON YOU INTO TRYING ANY STOPPING TEST, PLEASE.

<center>Have Seg Will Travel

REMEMBER:
Responsible Riders Ride Segway
and
Segway Riders Ride Responsibly

Segway, The Mind Changer </center>

quote:Originally posted by pt

quote:Originally posted by LawrenceWeskifm, do u trust the capabilites of Segway or dont u? I would have no hesitation in testing the stopping distance on any bike. Segway is supposed to be safer. So why worry? pt's skill in making a stop would be very usefull info for us all. We know he has limited experience.


i did the 2 day training, i've been riding for a week or so, i avoid pedestrian areas (my choice and my route allows that). i can stop very well but i never go fast enough really to need a "hard stop" i think "anything" is safer if you're motivated to operate it properly, from bikes, to segways to anything. for someone to do unscientific testing outside a lab environment seems irresponsible and the results won't be accurate depending on who performs the testing, it's more about the rider and conditions-- not a machine feature, that's just my opinion.

all that said, from what i tell i can stop faster on my segway than i can with my car, bike, rollerblades, skateboard, foot with equal speeds, this is my unscientific observation.

i think the important thing is that the training you need to take reinforces common sense and good judgement. i'm glad it's required.

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com

KonaSegway
12-10-2002, 08:52 PM
ok PT, I think I have hit "refresh" on your multimedia page too many times at bookofseg.com. I'm just dying for more videos/photos :-)

I love what you have on there so far and really appreciate all the time and work you have put into it.


Aloha!
Sam

4Seg
12-10-2002, 09:54 PM
paddleboy, meeeee tooooo! I've showed that video to ppl at work too. C'mon pt give is more! LOL.



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2totango
01-18-2003, 12:42 AM
Don't want you to think this thread is dead. I'm one more newbie who has been thrilled with your great descriptions and I'm sure there are others who simply are not posting replies.

Thanks

BillM
04-26-2003, 10:30 PM
Wow!

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