Proposed Segway ban at Venice Beach

Mr. Protocol · 05-23-2014, 03:45 PM

Los Angeles city councilman Mike Bonin has authored and sent to the Transportation Committee a proposed "urgent" ordinance ("urgent" means it takes immediate effect when passed and published) to ban Segways at Venice Beach. They'll be forbidden (except for ADA use) on both Ocean Front Walk and the bikeway. $100 for a first offense, lots more plus jail time for subsequent offenses.

So much for my quick, carless trips from Venice to Santa Monica and back.

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001FVnU1...R1A1Qe4Ztl-A==

PeteInLongBeach · 05-23-2014, 06:14 PM

And yet they will continue to allow bicycles, which are potentially faster?
This makes no sense...

Tritium · 05-23-2014, 07:07 PM

That's bullsh**
What's this bozo thinking?

rickb · 05-24-2014, 12:28 AM

Is an electric bike considered a power driven mobility device?

Mr. Protocol · 05-24-2014, 02:13 AM

Supposedly Segways were already banned. So are bikes on Ocean Front Walk, dogs in summer, and lots of other common items. Enforcement is nil. So I'm becoming less worried the longer I think about it. Occasionally a cyclist will get a ticket if he actually hits somebody (which they do a lot).

JohnG · 05-25-2014, 09:21 AM

Let's keep the bicycle conspiracy theories out of the thread, since they are also banned. Start your own bicycle conspiracy thread in the General Discussion forum if you feel like this is an important point to make.

Thanks.

dave · 06-25-2014, 11:06 AM

Yesterday the City Council approved a ban of Segways and and Segway like vehicles such as scooters and hybrid scooters having either two or three wheels in the Venice Ocean Front area.

Gihgehls · 06-25-2014, 01:06 PM

So I guess SoloWheels are in?

dave · 06-25-2014, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave

Yesterday the City Council approved a ban of Segways and and Segway like vehicles such as scooters and hybrid scooters having either two or three wheels in the Venice Ocean Front area.

When I read the newspaper articles. I read that because of multiple accidents along the Venice Boardwalk between Segways and pedestrians that the City Council was going to ban Segways and the other types of scooters in the entire beach front area, from Washington Blvd to the Santa Monica city limit, the ocean, and the property lines of the various private property areas, on every public way, bike way, sidewalk, and trail. The Boardwalk was reported as being very narrow, too narrow for Segways to operate; however, the Segways were going to be banned in addition on the other pedestrian paths that are parallel to the Boardwalk as well as the bike path. No good reason was given by anyone on why the other paths would be closed off to Segways.

One paper, however, reported that the ordinance was changed at the last moment, before being passed. The modified ordinance has not yet been posted on the City Clerk website. I just found out from the City Attorneys office that the ordinance was modified to allow Segways on the bike path. The other types of scooters are restricted from the bike paths.

The ordinance does say that the Segways must have all the reflectors in place, a light after dark, and a sound emitting device.

KSagal · 06-25-2014, 09:07 PM

Around here, I hear about many 'near misses' between segways and pedestrians, but very few, if any actual accidents or collisions. The quoted newspaper article indicates accidents between segways and pedestrians.

I wonder. Are they actually happening, or are some people just afraid they might? Furthermore, are people using other types of conveyances, like scooters, and having the accidents, and segways are being lumped in?

Please fill me in. Are actual accidents with segways and pedestrians really happening?

05-23-2014, 03:45 PM	#1
Mr. Protocol Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Venice, CA, USA. Posts: 278	Proposed Segway ban at Venice Beach Los Angeles city councilman Mike Bonin has authored and sent to the Transportation Committee a proposed "urgent" ordinance ("urgent" means it takes immediate effect when passed and published) to ban Segways at Venice Beach. They'll be forbidden (except for ADA use) on both Ocean Front Walk and the bikeway. $100 for a first offense, lots more plus jail time for subsequent offenses. So much for my quick, carless trips from Venice to Santa Monica and back. http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001FVnU1...R1A1Qe4Ztl-A==

05-25-2014, 09:21 AM	#6
JohnG Uber Administrator Wise Segway Elder Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 6,996	Let's keep the bicycle conspiracy theories out of the thread, since they are also banned. Start your own bicycle conspiracy thread in the General Discussion forum if you feel like this is an important point to make. Thanks. __________________ -- An original Segway employee, 2001-2005

06-25-2014, 11:06 AM	#7
dave Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a house, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 219	City Council approves Segway Ban Unanimously Yesterday the City Council approved a ban of Segways and and Segway like vehicles such as scooters and hybrid scooters having either two or three wheels in the Venice Ocean Front area. Last edited by dave; 06-25-2014 at 11:07 AM.. Reason: addenda

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Gihgehls Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Galactic Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 2,086	So I guess SoloWheels are in? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "...if you insist on being imprecise in use and unique in definition, you should hardly be surprised that your attempts at communication are poorly understood." -a wise man

06-25-2014, 09:07 PM	#10
KSagal Glides a lot, talks more... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pelham, NH, USA. Posts: 10,356	Around here, I hear about many 'near misses' between segways and pedestrians, but very few, if any actual accidents or collisions. The quoted newspaper article indicates accidents between segways and pedestrians. I wonder. Are they actually happening, or are some people just afraid they might? Furthermore, are people using other types of conveyances, like scooters, and having the accidents, and segways are being lumped in? Please fill me in. Are actual accidents with segways and pedestrians really happening? __________________ Karl Ian Sagal To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "Well done is better than well said." (Ben Franklin) Bene factum melior bene dictum Proud past President of SEG America and member of the First Premier Segway Enthusiasts Group and subsequent ones as well.

05-23-2014, 06:14 PM	#2
PeteInLongBeach Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,127	And yet they will continue to allow bicycles, which are potentially faster? This makes no sense...

05-23-2014, 07:07 PM	#3
Tritium Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Tucson Posts: 792	That's bullsh** What's this bozo thinking?

05-24-2014, 12:28 AM	#4
rickb Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South Dakota Posts: 327	Is an electric bike considered a power driven mobility device?

05-24-2014, 02:13 AM	#5
Mr. Protocol Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Venice, CA, USA. Posts: 278	Supposedly Segways were already banned. So are bikes on Ocean Front Walk, dogs in summer, and lots of other common items. Enforcement is nil. So I'm becoming less worried the longer I think about it. Occasionally a cyclist will get a ticket if he actually hits somebody (which they do a lot).

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