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Old 06-25-2014, 11:21 PM   #11
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Around here, I hear about many 'near misses' between segways and pedestrians, but very few, if any actual accidents or collisions. The quoted newspaper article indicates accidents between segways and pedestrians.

I wonder. Are they actually happening, or are some people just afraid they might? Furthermore, are people using other types of conveyances, like scooters, and having the accidents, and segways are being lumped in?


Please fill me in. Are actual accidents with segways and pedestrians really happening?
http://venice311.org/2013/06/10/boar...d-to-hospital/

If you look at the venice311.org website you can see a posting of a collision between a female Segway rider and an female shipowner on the Boardwalk path of Venice. There is also a photo of an ambulance loading a patient with two Segways in the background. The following comments state that the shipowner needed emergency surgery for a broken hip. It was this collision that was mentioned prominently in the various documents on the LA city clerk website.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:05 PM   #12
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I went in and spoke to several of the relevant councilman's deputies. The way the LA City Council works, btw, is that members allow each other to pass ordinances affecting only areas within one district without discussion or opposition. So, councilman Mike Bonin wanted to ban Segways in an area that's within his district only, and therefore all the other council members voted in favor unanimously.

The deputies said that Segways had ALREADY been banned in that area for some time, which was news to me, as that has never been enforced. There's considerable question as to whether this will be enforced either. Venice Beach currently has a huge homeless population, a large fraction of which is made up of voluntarily homeless "crusties" who just want to live at the beach, do drugs, and get into fights. This is fact, not politics. The police and other organizations have very proactive outreach programs, and this subset refuses all of them.

The upshot is that the police are left with their hands full. The usual policy elsewhere of just forcing them to move on has been stymied by a couple of Federal court decisions, so their hands are full on a permanent basis. This means that all sorts of ordinances that deal with matters less serious than people trying to kill each other, aren't enforced. This ordinance very probably will fall into that category, after an initial settling-down period when a few tickets may be issued.

BTW there's companion legislation being investigated which would force people claiming Segway use due to disability to register their machines and get stickers. This effort may have been stymied at the beginning, though.
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I'm sitting here (on vacation) watching the waves roll in at Daytona Beach, Florida.

Bicycles, tricycles, scooters, Segways on the beach. Also cars and vans. One of the hotels up the beach wants the county to allow the hotel to ban cars on the part of the beach that is adjacent to the hotel, but county residents are "up in arms" to prevent that ban.

Of course, it's the "right coast" instead of the "left coast".
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So I guess SoloWheels are in?
Actually I have a one wheel Segway type balancing electric unicycle.
If you guys want a picture, I can post one.
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Around here, I hear about many 'near misses' between segways and pedestrians, but very few, if any actual accidents or collisions. The quoted newspaper article indicates accidents between segways and pedestrians.

I wonder. Are they actually happening, or are some people just afraid they might? Furthermore, are people using other types of conveyances, like scooters, and having the accidents, and segways are being lumped in?


Please fill me in. Are actual accidents with segways and pedestrians really happening?
I travel quite a bit with my Segway, trade shows etc. my experience since 2004 is people run into you, no you and your Segway into them,
People just walk looking over there and when this happens in front of me and I cannot go left right or back , I just stop, you should see their faces when they look up finally and see a giant in front of them, precious.
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Around here, I hear about many 'near misses' between segways and pedestrians, but very few, if any actual accidents or collisions. The quoted newspaper article indicates accidents between segways and pedestrians.

I wonder. Are they actually happening, or are some people just afraid they might? Furthermore, are people using other types of conveyances, like scooters, and having the accidents, and segways are being lumped in?


Please fill me in. Are actual accidents with segways and pedestrians really happening?
6000 miles, no pedestrian accidents -- but I've had a lot of "near misses" that were really a distracted pedestrian suddenly noticing me, just missing running into me when I was already at a full stop.

One thing I learned very early on is that pedestrians are highly unpredictable, especially if they are on the phone.

I did have one bicyclist get tangled up and fall on me as I went past (at a slow speed). I came very close to ending up in a canal.
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