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Old 05-25-2014, 11:36 AM   #1
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I have a Gen 1 i167. There is a "rattle" type sound when I first begin to move. Is this normal?

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Old 05-26-2014, 07:45 AM   #2
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I have a Gen 1 i167. There is a "rattle" type sound when I first begin to move. Is this normal?
There is a noise that could be described as such...but it depends on how "bad" it sounds. It could be normal, or...it could be something is worn...
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i167 is already over 10 years old, the elastomer should be changed long ago.
It would be worn out by now, or the silicon compound had become a liquified gluey compound.




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The gear box should still be going strong as the first gen's gear box is much tougher then the later second batch i2 (2009 onwards)


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i167 is already over 10 years old, the elastomer should be changed long ago.
It would be worn out by now, or the silicon compound had become a liquified gluey compound.




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Changing the elastomer is easy and cheap. Even easy to do yourself if you know the right screws (I don't; I've watched it done but don't recall). Maybe you should just get a pair and replace them?

My elastomers seem to be going strong after 6 years and 6000 miles. I hypothesize that newer ones may be a bit longer-lasting, but I really don't know - but after we opened mine up to check a year ago, they were in good enough condition we left them. And no issues with my gearbox so far.
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I agree with Bob. I had to replace mine a couple times early on, but not for thousands of miles since, so I think the rubber may have been improved.

When they do go, you do get a rattling noise which sounds like the fender is loose. When you open it up, you find part of the elastomer has turned to gooey dust.
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I have a Gen 1 i167. There is a "rattle" type sound when I first begin to move. Is this normal?
Here are a couple of recordings…

The first one is with the segway under "no load" (i.e., no rider…just moving slowly under power assist mode).
Segway Rattle Copy.m4a.zip


The second one is with a rider, speeding up and slowing down.
Segway Under Load.m4a.zip

Sorry, I had to "zip" the sound files as the Admins of this forum have not enabled uploading of sound files…only pictures, PDF's and zip files.
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That doesn't sound like what I heard when my elastomers went bad.
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Worn elastomers exhibit a growling sort of sound. The mild rattling at low speed and start-up is transmission gear lash - normal.
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If the 11 years old Segway never checked or replaced the elastomer, it is recommended to replace it now, because a worn-out elastomer might crack and damage the plastic shaft cupeling, it will be extra cost to replace that part (Gen1's part is harder to find then the current i2)

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