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Old 09-07-2017, 11:30 AM   #1
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I didn't research enough!
I got a miniPRO to run back and forth to the mail room here at the apartment complex and also to get around in Disney World. I learned Disney World won't allow it.

There is a very large botanical garden that my wife likes to visit, she rents a scooter and I'll use the Segway miniPRO. Nope no segways allowed.

I want to visit the Air Force museum in Dayton Ohio but I'm afraid to ask if I can use the mini there.

Well at least apartment complex didn't say NO yet.
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It is an "other mobility device". Organizations can allow them or not depending on if the organization determines Segways (or any hoverboard) are a hazard.

Call the places you want to visit and tell them you use a Segway to get around and ask if you can bring it. Some places will allow and some will not. I doubt museums will allow them but it is worth a call to ask. Too many videos out there of large Segways bashing about, after the rider falls off, and too many videos of little hoverboards whipping the riders feet out from under them.

The local botanical gardens banned our mini pros. Sucked, as it would have been a great tour.
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Old 09-10-2017, 03:31 PM   #3
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Based upon your post you are not using it as a mobility device, if that is the case no one has to allow its use.

The DOJ ADA directive of 2014 states that 'as a mobility device' the Segway is to be considered the equal of a wheelchair. There are places that still ban them (Getty in L.A., Steinhart Aquarium in S.F.) but they may be violating federal law as they have done no specific study as required.

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My doctor filled out paperwork for me to send to the Pa. Dept. of Transportation that will get me a handicap parking placard. It hasn't arrived yet though. Do I need something else from another agency to show that I can't walk long distances and need a mobility device?
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My doctor filled out paperwork for me to send to the Pa. Dept. of Transportation that will get me a handicap parking placard. It hasn't arrived yet though. Do I need something else from another agency to show that I can't walk long distances and need a mobility device?
I allways have the DOJ's phone number in my cell.....and have a copy of the ADA rules in my front backpack on Seg!!! It has heleped 2 times for me....Somewhere on the site there are some links.....Should be a sticky, but i may have said that once before?
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Technically, under ADA, your statement of disability after they ask you is all you have to provide, no written proof is required under law. However, if you are seen running and catching frisbee after that statement you can be cited (or whatever they do for enforcement).

Your placard will be in the vehicle. Here, in WA, they also issue a wallet card for your placard. I guess you could show that, but as I said, that is beyond ADA.

Good point, airdale, make a copy of the 2014 DOJ ruling. It has helped me educate the aggressive 'safety' person in the past. One thing that trips them up, too, is to specifically ask for the 'ADA coordinator', they go into a cold sweat when you do that.
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Does that ADA tactic and call for the ADA coordinator work for Disney and early Segways or newer MiniPros? Does it work for the clone Swagtron hoverboards?
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I didn't research enough!

I got a miniPRO to run back and forth to the mail room here at the apartment complex and also to get around in Disney World. I learned Disney World won't allow it.



There is a very large botanical garden that my wife likes to visit, she rents a scooter and I'll use the Segway miniPRO. Nope no segways allowed.



I want to visit the Air Force museum in Dayton Ohio but I'm afraid to ask if I can use the mini there.



Well at least apartment complex didn't say NO yet.


The SegwayMini pro is ADA compliant. I have notes from medical doctors based upon my ailing back and totally reconstructed ankle and lower leg that I need a device like the SMP. So, if mine is appropriated, then they must provide a substitute at their expense. If I am denied, then they will be reported and lawyers contacted.




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The SegwayMini pro is ADA compliant. I have notes from medical doctors based upon my ailing back and totally reconstructed ankle and lower leg that I need a device like the SMP. So, if mine is appropriated, then they must provide a substitute at their expense. If I am denied, then they will be reported and lawyers contacted.




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But like said before....WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO THAT!....They deny me they are hearing from my lawyer either way!

I mean not to dump on you, so dont take it that way....Being disabled sucks! You cant see my disability!....Life is hard enough for me, I dont need Barny Fife making harder on me!...Sorry for the vent.

I dont want anyone to know whats wrong with me....Can you imagine walking into a store and asking some stranger some completely personal question?

"Hi, mame what a beautifal girl you have, natural or C-section?" " how many tries" ect,ect.
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The SegwayMini pro is ADA compliant. I have notes from medical doctors based upon my ailing back and totally reconstructed ankle and lower leg that I need a device like the SMP. So, if mine is appropriated, then they must provide a substitute at their expense. If I am denied, then they will be reported and lawyers contacted.




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I use my segway as a EPMAD (electronic personal mobility assistive device) all the time and have used it in many many museums, fairs, etc. Most recently the Air and Space museum in Dulles plus the Lincoln Memorial in DC. I have a seat on it and a visible handicap placard and have not been denied entrance to date. I have been questioned maybe 2X, once by a security guard at a museum and once at Target by an over-zealous mgr. They both said basically "do you need that thing" and I said "yep, it's my wheelchair" and they said " have a good day." I think it's a great idea to keep the regs handy in case you end up needing it. Just being prepared, you give the impression you know more than they do and they invariably back down and go away.
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