Alternate tires for segways....

Madsegs · 04-25-2007, 11:34 AM

Many tyre replacements are avaliable and not too hard to fit. Lets try to get a knowlegebase of experiences and tyres, comfort and rides from these.
Tyres that i know of are:

Bridgestone M39F 60/100-14 (soft terrain tyre)
Other possibles are M40 and M29

Pirelli Scorpion MX Mid Soft 32 60/100-14NHS 29M (soft terrain tyre)

Bridgestone TW5 2.75-14 (only fits i167/i170 fenders)

Kenda K760 Trackmaster2 60/100-14 TL 38M

Kenda 770F Southwick 60/100-14 TL 30M

Maxxis M7304 60/100-14 TT 30M

Kenda 771F Millville 60/100-14 TL 30M

Kenda 772F Carlsbad 60/100-14 TL 30M

Michelin Starcross MS 2 front 60/100-14 TT 30M

Bridgestone M401 60/100 R14 30M (replaces M57)

Chenshin C186 2.75-14 (trial)

Bridgestone 403 60/100-14 (front)

Pirelli ML12 2.25-14 reinf 35J(road-moped)

Pirelli MT32A 60/100-14 (front)

EXCELERATOR HF343 60/100-14

Chenshin C183A 2.5 (and) 2.75-14 (2.75 does not fit all seg models)

Maxxis Maxcross IT 60/100-14 30MTT (front)

When replying please add what model you have used it on allong with your comments.
Thankx

GlennO · 04-25-2007, 01:10 PM

You forgot to ask if any of us would prefer Tweels!

Glenn

Zorba9 · 04-25-2007, 01:13 PM

... great job of tire cataloging Antony! These are all various brands & treads for junior motorcycling and motocross riding. I use the Michelin Starcross S2's - a little smaller than Segway originals which is good, the thick mud doesn't jam up under the fenders! Those babys will claw themselves & Segway up 40degree muddy slopes without hesitation. The best studded Segway originals could/can climb 45 degree muddy slopes - literally digging in with the carbide spikes. You'll get the frown face on Gen 1's but power/speed limiter will never kick in nor beep at you - no matter how hard you push the HT it won't shut down, just keeps steady climbing.................oops

10.0 still rules for Gen 1! (note to self - never,never send back to mothership!)

Antony add all of Segways different Standard and ETT styles for a complete list. The list of possibilities for XT's/X2's would be staggering too.

KOG

hellphish · 04-25-2007, 01:20 PM

I'd like to find some tires that give me a better ride. I don't find myself lacking grip, just comfort. I really love climbing stuff on my segway too. I need to find some knobbies. I don't really like the shinchens

BringOnI2 · 04-25-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlennO

You forgot to ask if any of us would prefer Tweels!

Glenn

Seconded. The wiki page on it puts production of them expected to start in 2016 though

Madsegs · 04-25-2007, 06:18 PM

That goes without saying, we all want them....im sure a set from inc on ebay could fetch more than the cost of one complete segway . They only have 10 samples and michelin will not make me any , i asked.

The MS2 (michelin) is a very hard compound and i can only see wet muddy or snow conditions being the advantages. I also doubt you will ever get a puncture with them. As for harder ground and concrete they have good traction in wet conditions but the bumpy ride put me off. Big plus is that they fit all segway models. They have good clearance of the fenders and do not collect dirt.

The chenshin is so far the best for me and i use them everyday. Soft compound heavy tread but close knobs. Disavantage is that they collect dirt, rub the fenders on hard cornering and do not fit all models. Also hard to find in the correct size. They are the most comfortable tyres i have tested and they add a little speed too. Turning is far more powerful with the added diameter.

I have just worked out how to upload pics so i will get some more done soon.

joe · 04-25-2007, 06:22 PM

GREAT list! With pictures it would be even better. This is a pic of the Michelin Starcross S2:

bild1_starcrossms2front.jpg

Edit: Madseg's picture is better (the one I found is not the Segway size and looks a little different).

Regarding the clearance problems with the Chenshin and others... here I get back to my idea of a fender extension.

I've not made them yet, but I'll investigate the costs for a machined version.

--
Johannes

polo_pro · 04-25-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe

GREAT list! With pictures it would be even better. This is a pic of the Michelin Starcross S2:

I'll second that. Karl could probably help since he's probably bought a set of each of these types of tires! Karl, would you be willing to make your collection available to someone local to you for picture taking?

ryan_walters · 04-25-2007, 07:41 PM

Chenshin C803 2.50-14

See here for comments:
http://forums.segwaychat.com/showthread.php?t=14530

wwhopper · 04-25-2007, 07:46 PM

To the head of Bridgestone USA's training. I am working with him right now on a project for my car club.

I know I will have him on a Segway during an upcoming event, so of course we will have to get it to run on Bridgestone tires!

View Poll Results: What do you think? or why are you here.
Waste of time segway is perfect....	9	5.03%
I like alternatives.	53	29.61%
Need more grip.	20	11.17%
Alternate terrain nessesity (snow, mud, wet...)	41	22.91%
Looking for tougher tyres (less poss. of puntures)	43	24.02%
Just interested.	64	35.75%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 179. You may not vote on this poll

04-25-2007, 11:34 AM	#1
Madsegs Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 256	Alternate tires for segways.... Many tyre replacements are avaliable and not too hard to fit. Lets try to get a knowlegebase of experiences and tyres, comfort and rides from these. Tyres that i know of are: Bridgestone M39F 60/100-14 (soft terrain tyre) Other possibles are M40 and M29 Pirelli Scorpion MX Mid Soft 32 60/100-14NHS 29M (soft terrain tyre) Bridgestone TW5 2.75-14 (only fits i167/i170 fenders) Kenda K760 Trackmaster2 60/100-14 TL 38M Kenda 770F Southwick 60/100-14 TL 30M Maxxis M7304 60/100-14 TT 30M Kenda 771F Millville 60/100-14 TL 30M Kenda 772F Carlsbad 60/100-14 TL 30M Michelin Starcross MS 2 front 60/100-14 TT 30M Bridgestone M401 60/100 R14 30M (replaces M57) Chenshin C186 2.75-14 (trial) Bridgestone 403 60/100-14 (front) Pirelli ML12 2.25-14 reinf 35J(road-moped) Pirelli MT32A 60/100-14 (front) EXCELERATOR HF343 60/100-14 Chenshin C183A 2.5 (and) 2.75-14 (2.75 does not fit all seg models) Maxxis Maxcross IT 60/100-14 30MTT (front) When replying please add what model you have used it on allong with your comments. Thankx __________________ Antony Don´t you just love segs, i´m always riding mine. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-25-2007, 01:13 PM	#3
Zorba9 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxford, Mississippi, . Posts: 1,084	Wow... ... great job of tire cataloging Antony! These are all various brands & treads for junior motorcycling and motocross riding. I use the Michelin Starcross S2's - a little smaller than Segway originals which is good, the thick mud doesn't jam up under the fenders! Those babys will claw themselves & Segway up 40degree muddy slopes without hesitation. The best studded Segway originals could/can climb 45 degree muddy slopes - literally digging in with the carbide spikes. You'll get the frown face on Gen 1's but power/speed limiter will never kick in nor beep at you - no matter how hard you push the HT it won't shut down, just keeps steady climbing.................oops 10.0 still rules for Gen 1! (note to self - never,never send back to mothership!) Antony add all of Segways different Standard and ETT styles for a complete list. The list of possibilities for XT's/X2's would be staggering too. KOG __________________ Zorba9.....

04-25-2007, 06:18 PM	#6
Madsegs Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain. Posts: 256	Tweels That goes without saying, we all want them....im sure a set from inc on ebay could fetch more than the cost of one complete segway . They only have 10 samples and michelin will not make me any , i asked. The MS2 (michelin) is a very hard compound and i can only see wet muddy or snow conditions being the advantages. I also doubt you will ever get a puncture with them. As for harder ground and concrete they have good traction in wet conditions but the bumpy ride put me off. Big plus is that they fit all segway models. They have good clearance of the fenders and do not collect dirt. The chenshin is so far the best for me and i use them everyday. Soft compound heavy tread but close knobs. Disavantage is that they collect dirt, rub the fenders on hard cornering and do not fit all models. Also hard to find in the correct size. They are the most comfortable tyres i have tested and they add a little speed too. Turning is far more powerful with the added diameter. I have just worked out how to upload pics so i will get some more done soon. __________________ Antony Don´t you just love segs, i´m always riding mine. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Madsegs; 04-25-2007 at 06:22 PM.. Reason: answers an aditional question.

04-25-2007, 06:22 PM	#7
joe Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany. Posts: 440	GREAT list! With pictures it would be even better. This is a pic of the Michelin Starcross S2: bild1_starcrossms2front.jpg Edit: Madseg's picture is better (the one I found is not the Segway size and looks a little different). Regarding the clearance problems with the Chenshin and others... here I get back to my idea of a fender extension. I've not made them yet, but I'll investigate the costs for a machined version. -- Johannes Last edited by joe; 04-25-2007 at 06:36 PM..

04-25-2007, 01:10 PM	#2
GlennO Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waianae, Hi, . Posts: 305	You forgot to ask if any of us would prefer Tweels! Glenn

04-25-2007, 01:20 PM	#4
hellphish Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Silentville Posts: 1,122	I'd like to find some tires that give me a better ride. I don't find myself lacking grip, just comfort. I really love climbing stuff on my segway too. I need to find some knobbies. I don't really like the shinchens

04-25-2007, 07:41 PM	#9
ryan_walters Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 347	Chenshin C803 2.50-14 See here for comments: http://forums.segwaychat.com/showthread.php?t=14530

04-25-2007, 07:46 PM	#10
wwhopper Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Washington, DC, USA. Posts: 4,894	I am going to give the Bridgestone list To the head of Bridgestone USA's training. I am working with him right now on a project for my car club. I know I will have him on a Segway during an upcoming event, so of course we will have to get it to run on Bridgestone tires! __________________ Will W Hopper DCSEG Washington, DC, U.S.A.

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