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Old 09-25-2014, 03:21 AM   #21
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Default Software for duplicate keys

Hi,
Can some one link me here or by my private
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To SW that he knows working for sure?
Do you know if it will work on windows 8 ?
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:21 AM   #22
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I use iButton Copy Machine, along with Florin's segCRC to compute changed CRC codes, etc.

Searching this forum and/or google should provide links to the most recent versions.

The hardware I use is DS9097U

And I don't know if it will work with Windows 8. In fact, I use it on an old XP computer.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:27 AM   #23
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Default Software to help program i-button segway keys


This one is what I used last time I did a key http://mywebpages.comcast.net/halon/segcrc.html
Not sure if it still works or if it works on windows 8.
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:53 PM   #24
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Hi,
I have seen this, but this is just the code to burn
It is not the tool to use ? isn't it?
I need to SW to actually burn the data to key
And this can't read old key, can it ?
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As I said: iButton Copy Machine can be used to read and write iButtons.
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Hi,
But it can copy same key?
And can't convert BLACK key to RED key?
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But it can copy same key?
And can't convert BLACK key to RED key?
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Yes, it can copy the same key.

Yes, it can read the key and give you the code for that key.

Then use segCRC to convert the speed, turn rate, etc. (i.e., convert the key) and give you the code for the changed key.

Then use that code with copy machine to write the new key.

I think that's what I said earlier, but perhaps "baby steps" were needed.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:15 PM   #28
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Ok,
I didn't find this one
I bought this one:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...0A-F5&_sacat=0

also this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iButton-Blue...vip=true&rt=nc

to be on the safe side
The second I am almost sure will do the work
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:15 PM   #29
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Not that I doubted the answer supplied by Curious1:

My source at ibuttonlink.com confirms that - if the battery dies, only the ROM of the ibutton can be read. That's essentially only the unique serial number of the button, and has nothing to do with the Segway.

Of course, the internal NV SRAM still has the Segway key data. So, just use a tiny can opener, open the button, and replace the battery......
I'm not an electronics expert, but I agree with the assessment that the battery in the ibutton does not play a part in the normal operation of a gen-1 segway. batteries of this type die all the time for many reasons. If the battery was essential in operating a segway, then we would have seen lots of posts here from people whose key just up and died.

The battery is definitely there to preserve data. Given that ibuttons are not specific to segways and are used in a lot of other applications, it could simply be the case that the battery is a standard ibutton feature that the segway does not require.
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Old 09-28-2014, 03:14 PM   #30
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Hi,
OK this is working under Windows 8 without any problems!
I did not copy the keys yet - since I did not get the empty keys yet, but I can read the keys and actually see the 16 HEX "code" of the key
for example:

F6 00 00 00 3A 47 AA 06

BTW as you can see and I seen in many keys there are a 6 zeros, and I seen this in many keys, so probably many of the owners (I guess) have these 6 zeros - if any one has his key please approve that I am right about this.

Also there is more data to copy (few pages) but this is the secret code key

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