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Old 12-02-2011, 03:45 PM   #1
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I am new to this site and also the Segway world. I just picked up a i180 and I cannot get it to power up. It has Lithium batteries that were purchased in 2009. When I try to charge it, one of the led indicators light up green and the other red. I metered the batteries and they read 3-5 volts. I am basically trying to determine if it is a battery or Segway issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:26 AM   #2
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I am new to this site and also the Segway world. I just picked up a i180 and I cannot get it to power up. It has Lithium batteries that were purchased in 2009. When I try to charge it, one of the led indicators light up green and the other red. I metered the batteries and they read 3-5 volts. I am basically trying to determine if it is a battery or Segway issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The batteries can easily been allowed to damage themselves by depletion below acceptable thresholds because there are some small draws on them at all times.

Because of this, segways should be plugged in at all times, when not in use. It is as simple as that, and if not, problems will arise, in as little as a couple weeks, depending on their charge.

Now that your batteries have such low voltage, you need to have them restored or replaced. There are services out there, but the best in my opinion, hands down, is MTO. Find them here on this forum, several times mentioned.

It is possible that your low battery (red) can be given a small charge, off segway, that will bring the battery voltage up to a level where the segway can charge it. If this cannot be done, you may need to replace the battery.

One point, you mentioned the low voltage, but one should be higher than the other, if one is green, and the other red.

First thing I would do is swap the batteries front to rear, to be sure that the red indicator follows the battery, confirming that the battery itself is suspect.

Good luck.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:19 PM   #3
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Good batteries should read around 60+ volts, as I recall. One of the batteries (the one with the green light) should be in that ballpark. Hence, you may not be reading the battery voltage. Maybe you are seeing the 5V supply for on-board electronics.

On the other hand, neither LED should instantly go green, if the batteries haven't been charged. Follow KSAGAL's advice and contact Jason at MTOBATTERY, either on this forum or through their website.

If the batteries can be reconditioned (revived), then you may get out of this with a relatively minor expense. If not, replacement lithium ion batteries are pretty expensive. Note the difference between "recondition"/"revive" and "rebuild"/"refill". Personally, I would not use the few services that I am aware of that rebuild (refilling the battery with new cells) lithium ion batteries.

Getting a Segway that doesn't power up is like getting a car with an engine that won't start. I hope the price was right.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:09 PM   #4
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While we are on the subject, what is the average life span of a well cared for battery? (Both types)
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Good Question.

There's no firm answer, just a statistical answer.

That said, I still have a 2003 i167, my very first Segway.
It still has the original NiMH batteries.

I don't use it often, but it seems to go as good as new.

Of course, I do look after my batteries.

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