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Old 11-18-2016, 04:06 PM   #11
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I've put about 100 miles on my miniPro. My verdict is that it isn't nearly as safe or comfortable as an i2, or even a gen1 machine. The LeenSteer doesn't work the same way, so you can't confidently go across bumps at angle like you can with an i2.
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Old 11-18-2016, 05:04 PM   #12
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I've put about 100 miles on my miniPro. My verdict is that it isn't nearly as safe or comfortable as an i2, or even a gen1 machine. The LeenSteer doesn't work the same way, so you can't confidently go across bumps at angle like you can with an i2.
But its cheap and made in China....Isnt that all Americans really want?
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I've put about 100 miles on my miniPro. My verdict is that it isn't nearly as safe or comfortable as an i2, or even a gen1 machine. The LeenSteer doesn't work the same way, so you can't confidently go across bumps at angle like you can with an i2.
Are you saying that the MiniPro isn't able to traverse an angled surface like an i2 would? If one were gliding down a sidewalk and came to a driveway that angled down to the street, would the MiniPro try to turn "uphill" if one were to continue on straight across the driveway? Do the gyros in the base not compensate for uneven surfaces side to side? If that's the case, then that is a serious design flaw IMO.

I just received a MiniPro yesterday, but I need to make a steering handle before I can use it. I have limited mobility, and I just don't have enough functioning to use the leg steering. It would only ever be an accessory to my i2s, and I don't expect perfection for 600 bucks. Still, I'd think that it should be able to recognize (and compensate for) uneven surfaces. I look forward to giving it a try.
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Are you saying that the MiniPro isn't able to traverse an angled surface like an i2 would? If one were gliding down a sidewalk and came to a driveway that angled down to the street, would the MiniPro try to turn "uphill" if one were to continue on straight across the driveway? Do the gyros in the base not compensate for uneven surfaces side to side? If that's the case, then that is a serious design flaw IMO.
This is exactly how I felt when going at a angle. Definitely not a SEGWAY quality unit but it is good for the price. You have to remember to keep the knee bar 90degrees to the platform otherwise it will turn on you.
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This is exactly how I felt when going at a angle. Definitely not a SEGWAY quality unit but it is good for the price. You have to remember to keep the knee bar 90degrees to the platform otherwise it will turn on you.
Ah. That's the beauty of the i2/x2 Segways. The platform can move at angles beneath you, and the machine will maintain course until you move the steering handle left or right. It immediately recognizes changes in terrain and compensates accordingly. Once I finish the steering system for the MiniPro, it will be interesting to compare the two. I've seen lots of the videos of MPs going off-road, so I just assumed they automatically offset the steering for uneven terrain.
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Ah. That's the beauty of the i2/x2 Segways. The platform can move at angles beneath you, and the machine will maintain course until you move the steering handle left or right. It immediately recognizes changes in terrain and compensates accordingly. Once I finish the steering system for the MiniPro, it will be interesting to compare the two. I've seen lots of the videos of MPs going off-road, so I just assumed they automatically offset the steering for uneven terrain.
Me too. I've see so many MP videos of people going offroad. One thing I noticed is that they keep a gap between both legs and the knee bar so if it bounces around they don't hit the bar.

I2/X2 are so much better in that sense, but with a price. I love my X2
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Me too. I've see so many MP videos of people going offroad. One thing I noticed is that they keep a gap between both legs and the knee bar so if it bounces around they don't hit the bar.

I2/X2 are so much better in that sense, but with a price. I love my X2
I got the handlebar finished and was able to take my MP out for a spin. It's nowhere near as smooth or intuitive as an i2/x2, but I think a large part of that has to do with the weight. It's about a third of both the weight and size of an i2. I think It's an amazing little machine for the price. I will definitely be using the heck out of it. At 30 pounds, it's just way more manageable. No special lift or carrier required . Just throw it in the car and go! However, I certainly WON'T be using it as a commuter. The i2 is a much better option for moving about the city. One thing is for sure, I feel truly fortunate to even have such options.
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Are you saying that the MiniPro isn't able to traverse an angled surface like an i2 would? If one were gliding down a sidewalk and came to a driveway that angled down to the street, would the MiniPro try to turn "uphill" if one were to continue on straight across the driveway? Do the gyros in the base not compensate for uneven surfaces side to side? If that's the case, then that is a serious design flaw IMO.

I just received a MiniPro yesterday, but I need to make a steering handle before I can use it. I have limited mobility, and I just don't have enough functioning to use the leg steering. It would only ever be an accessory to my i2s, and I don't expect perfection for 600 bucks. Still, I'd think that it should be able to recognize (and compensate for) uneven surfaces. I look forward to giving it a try.

Yes and no, there is some compensation, but it doesn't happen 1:1 with the leensteer movement. If you put the thing on a very steep side slope, it will turn downhill, but it isn't as sensitive as the gen2 and doesn't really add anything to safety. It only makes it "just usable" on a sideslope.
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Yes and no, there is some compensation, but it doesn't happen 1:1 with the leensteer movement. If you put the thing on a very steep side slope, it will turn downhill, but it isn't as sensitive as the gen2 and doesn't really add anything to safety. It only makes it "just usable" on a sideslope.

That is what I found. It does a pretty good job for being such a small, lightweight device. I was expecting it to take me for a ride when I first tried traversing an angled surface. It handled it well! I'm always cautious on the MiniPro, anyway. With more time and use, I'm sure it'll be come second nature to me. I'm sure I'll never be able to barrel over terrain like I do on the larger machines, but that's not really why I got the MP in the first place. I'm having a blast exploring and tinkering with these things.
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