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Arturas · 08-23-2009, 07:41 AM

What the air in a tire has to do with the bolts??

)))))))))

Why do you want to unscrew these bolts? Maybe you don't have the middle parts on your other wheels? Well i did it couple of times. I use a wrench that has a T form. Sure you will have to use some force, but believe me these bolts give up when you use your power

Joushou · 08-23-2009, 07:52 AM

Use the force...

Don't use a T-wrench, use a wrench with a long shaft, and some oil... Liquid wrench would ease things, if you have any...

Arturas · 08-23-2009, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joushou

Use the force...

Don't use a T-wrench, use a wrench with a long shaft, and some oil... Liquid wrench would ease things, if you have any...

Sure long shaft works great, i use it for gearbox screws. But what i meant is that you can use many tools, you just need to know how to use them and have enough power to work with them.

If you won't be able yo unscrew bolts with T wrench then look for the shaft.

scoob5o · 08-23-2009, 01:49 PM

I was lead to believe that the wheel design was a split rim design so i f there was air in the tire pushing against the two halfs of the wheel with the side wall of the tires it would create extra force on the bolts.. I have mounted alot of old truck tires that usto have this type of design and you couldnt work with it unless the air was drained /removed to relieve the stress on the hardware to disassemble. I havent dismounted my x2 tires yet so im not speaking from experience on the segway tires, I was lead to believe this from the service guy at the local segway dealer

Joushou · 08-23-2009, 02:02 PM

No, it's not a split-rim, it's just a hub-adapter, that is very well tightened...

Silver Fox · 08-23-2009, 04:33 PM

1. First of all I want to thank everyone for there suggestions.

I tried Freezing; I tried the Force, I tried Liquid Wrench, I tried letting the air out, WHY? I don’t know at this point I would have tried dropping it off a cliff, and then I tried HEAT thanks to Jeff.

But not just any heat (your wife’s hair blower just won’t do) you need PROPANE the MANLY HEAT, you need to get the RED Loctite above 300* and keep it there wile at the same time applying force with a cheater bar attached to your Allen wrench and then they come off.

I hope this info and the photos can help someone else, especially if your thinking of buying tires without the hub already attached

1 bolt removal.jpg
2 bolt removal.jpg
3 bolt removal.jpg
4 bolt removal.jpg
5 bolt removal.jpg

Joushou · 08-23-2009, 04:54 PM

The reason he suggested letting the air out, is that he thought that the bolts hold together a so called "split-rim"... Meaning, the rim is in two parts, and when the tire inflates, it puts so much pressure on the two halfes, that they're almost impossible to separate... He didn't know it was just a hub (And for some reason, his dealer had also said it was a split rim... *Whips that guys dealer*).

jgbackes · 08-23-2009, 05:41 PM

When you put it back together, use blue loctite.

jeff

Joushou · 08-23-2009, 05:50 PM

No! Use the red again! It's so much more fun to take apart!

... Follow Jeff's advice, and use the blue one...

KSagal · 08-23-2009, 10:25 PM

Did anyone mention there is a little set screw in the side? If you remove it, the whole thing comes out easily...

Just kidding. But I have done the hard disassemble in the past, only to find the easy way later on...

Good for you in persevering... Congrats on getting the job done.

08-23-2009, 07:41 AM	#11
Arturas Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LITHUANIA, Vilnius Posts: 112	force What the air in a tire has to do with the bolts??))))))))) Why do you want to unscrew these bolts? Maybe you don't have the middle parts on your other wheels? Well i did it couple of times. I use a wrench that has a T form. Sure you will have to use some force, but believe me these bolts give up when you use your power

08-23-2009, 07:52 AM	#12
Joushou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlottenlund, Denmark Posts: 749	Use the force... Don't use a T-wrench, use a wrench with a long shaft, and some oil... Liquid wrench would ease things, if you have any... __________________ The wise speak when they have something to say. Fools speak when they have to say something. *Reality has been scientifically proven impossible.*

08-23-2009, 02:02 PM	#15
Joushou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlottenlund, Denmark Posts: 749	No, it's not a split-rim, it's just a hub-adapter, that is very well tightened... __________________ The wise speak when they have something to say. Fools speak when they have to say something. *Reality has been scientifically proven impossible.*

08-23-2009, 04:54 PM	#17
Joushou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlottenlund, Denmark Posts: 749	The reason he suggested letting the air out, is that he thought that the bolts hold together a so called "split-rim"... Meaning, the rim is in two parts, and when the tire inflates, it puts so much pressure on the two halfes, that they're almost impossible to separate... He didn't know it was just a hub (And for some reason, his dealer had also said it was a split rim... Whips that guys dealer). __________________ The wise speak when they have something to say. Fools speak when they have to say something. *Reality has been scientifically proven impossible.*

08-23-2009, 05:41 PM	#18
jgbackes Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Jose, CA - USA Posts: 1,314	When you put it back together, use blue loctite. jeff __________________ sǝʞɔɐq ɟɟǝɾ If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-23-2009, 01:49 PM	#14
scoob5o Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: richmond va Posts: 43	I was lead to believe that the wheel design was a split rim design so i f there was air in the tire pushing against the two halfs of the wheel with the side wall of the tires it would create extra force on the bolts.. I have mounted alot of old truck tires that usto have this type of design and you couldnt work with it unless the air was drained /removed to relieve the stress on the hardware to disassemble. I havent dismounted my x2 tires yet so im not speaking from experience on the segway tires, I was lead to believe this from the service guy at the local segway dealer

08-23-2009, 04:33 PM	#16
Silver Fox Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami Lakes Florida Posts: 24	1. First of all I want to thank everyone for there suggestions. I tried Freezing; I tried the Force, I tried Liquid Wrench, I tried letting the air out, WHY? I don’t know at this point I would have tried dropping it off a cliff, and then I tried HEAT thanks to Jeff. But not just any heat (your wife’s hair blower just won’t do) you need PROPANE the MANLY HEAT, you need to get the RED Loctite above 300* and keep it there wile at the same time applying force with a cheater bar attached to your Allen wrench and then they come off. I hope this info and the photos can help someone else, especially if your thinking of buying tires without the hub already attached 1 bolt removal.jpg 2 bolt removal.jpg 3 bolt removal.jpg 4 bolt removal.jpg 5 bolt removal.jpg

08-23-2009, 05:50 PM	#19
Joushou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlottenlund, Denmark Posts: 749	No! Use the red again! It's so much more fun to take apart! ... Follow Jeff's advice, and use the blue one... __________________ The wise speak when they have something to say. Fools speak when they have to say something. *Reality has been scientifically proven impossible.*

08-23-2009, 10:25 PM	#20
KSagal Glides a lot, talks more... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pelham, NH, USA. Posts: 10,356	Did anyone mention there is a little set screw in the side? If you remove it, the whole thing comes out easily... Just kidding. But I have done the hard disassemble in the past, only to find the easy way later on... Good for you in persevering... Congrats on getting the job done. __________________ Karl Ian Sagal To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "Well done is better than well said." (Ben Franklin) Bene factum melior bene dictum Proud past President of SEG America and member of the First Premier Segway Enthusiasts Group and subsequent ones as well.

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