HELP is it clockwise or counter clockwise?

Silver Fox · 08-22-2009, 05:46 PM

I have been trying to remove the tires on my X2 and all 4 of the Allan bolts are very tight. If I apply any more force I want to make sure I'm going in the right direction. Thanks in advance for your reply.

wwhopper · 08-22-2009, 06:03 PM

Righty tighty

Lefty lucy

Bob.Kerns · 08-22-2009, 06:22 PM

It's a reasonable question, though -- I HAVE encountered reverse threads on some devices, for symmetry and tightening, rather than loosening, under load.

It's not common, and I don't know of ANY current use, as there are other ways to solve the problem, and the confusion it causes can be major!

But having had encounters with reverse threads, it is always something I ask myself when I encounter a fastener that won't turn...maybe the other way?

Silver Fox · 08-22-2009, 07:44 PM

Thanks, Will and Bob for your fast repies.

Still no luck, I've applied so much force counter clockwise that I though the bolts would snap. I'm thinking of freezing one of them with a can of dust off and trying again.

scoob5o · 08-22-2009, 07:59 PM

is there air still in your tires i believe that the allen bolts hold the two halfs of the split rim together and the 12mm hexhead bolts are for removing the wheels from the trans.. i have a set of i 2 wheels and tires that i swap out for riding in the mall and i just remove the 12mm bolts the guy at my dealership said for changing the tire from the wheels that it is a split rim design like an old truck tire deflate the tire undo the allen bolts and split the two halfs apart pop them into the new tire and rebolt and inflate

KSagal · 08-22-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

Thanks, Will and Bob for your fast repies.

Still no luck, I've applied so much force counter clockwise that I though the bolts would snap. I'm thinking of freezing one of them with a can of dust off and trying again.

I am not familiar with the bolts you are speaking of, as I did not know that allen bolts hold on the wheels, but I would use a penetrating oil, like WD40 or Liquid Wrench before the propellant in a can of compressed air.

Silver Fox · 08-22-2009, 11:22 PM

IMG00312.jpg These are the bolts that won't budge

scoob5o · 08-22-2009, 11:41 PM

are you using a regular "L" key allen wrench if so its not long enough to get the torque to break them free. The best thing would be a socket on a long handle ratchet and of course make sure all the air is deflated by removing the shrader core from the valve stem.

jgbackes · 08-23-2009, 12:32 AM

these are not split rims you don't need to worry about that. You will have MUCH better luck if you put the wheel back on the segway and hold the wheel with your legs. They may have been installed with RED loctite which requires heat to loosen.

jeff

DarthSegVator · 08-23-2009, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoob5o

The best thing would be a socket on a long handle ratchet and of course make sure all the air is deflated by removing the shrader core from the valve stem.

Remove the air from the tire?

Huh?

08-22-2009, 05:46 PM	#1
Silver Fox Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami Lakes Florida Posts: 24	HELP is it clockwise or counter clockwise? I have been trying to remove the tires on my X2 and all 4 of the Allan bolts are very tight. If I apply any more force I want to make sure I'm going in the right direction. Thanks in advance for your reply.

08-22-2009, 06:03 PM	#2
wwhopper Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Washington, DC, USA. Posts: 4,894	Righty tighty Lefty lucy __________________ Will W Hopper DCSEG Washington, DC, U.S.A.

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Bob.Kerns Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 3,783	It's a reasonable question, though -- I HAVE encountered reverse threads on some devices, for symmetry and tightening, rather than loosening, under load. It's not common, and I don't know of ANY current use, as there are other ways to solve the problem, and the confusion it causes can be major! But having had encounters with reverse threads, it is always something I ask myself when I encounter a fastener that won't turn...maybe the other way? __________________ Bob Kerns: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Obviously, we can't have infinite voltage, or the universe would tear itself to shreds, and we wouldn't be discussing Segways.

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jgbackes Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Jose, CA - USA Posts: 1,314	these are not split rims you don't need to worry about that. You will have MUCH better luck if you put the wheel back on the segway and hold the wheel with your legs. They may have been installed with RED loctite which requires heat to loosen. jeff __________________ sǝʞɔɐq ɟɟǝɾ If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-22-2009, 07:44 PM	#4
Silver Fox Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami Lakes Florida Posts: 24	Thanks, Will and Bob for your fast repies. Still no luck, I've applied so much force counter clockwise that I though the bolts would snap. I'm thinking of freezing one of them with a can of dust off and trying again.

08-22-2009, 07:59 PM	#5
scoob5o Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: richmond va Posts: 43	is there air still in your tires i believe that the allen bolts hold the two halfs of the split rim together and the 12mm hexhead bolts are for removing the wheels from the trans.. i have a set of i 2 wheels and tires that i swap out for riding in the mall and i just remove the 12mm bolts the guy at my dealership said for changing the tire from the wheels that it is a split rim design like an old truck tire deflate the tire undo the allen bolts and split the two halfs apart pop them into the new tire and rebolt and inflate

08-22-2009, 11:22 PM	#7
Silver Fox Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami Lakes Florida Posts: 24	IMG00312.jpg These are the bolts that won't budge

08-22-2009, 11:41 PM	#8
scoob5o Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: richmond va Posts: 43	are you using a regular "L" key allen wrench if so its not long enough to get the torque to break them free. The best thing would be a socket on a long handle ratchet and of course make sure all the air is deflated by removing the shrader core from the valve stem.

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