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Old 11-24-2010, 12:28 AM   #191
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are there any options for X2's that anyone has found useful? My original X2 knobbies are still good after 5,000 miles but the center rib is worn down to the point that replacement will need to be considered in the next 1,000 or so miles.
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http://tinyurl.com/336fkrp

You'll find plenty of options for a variety of conditions ( trail, mud, snow, sand, etc), such as here :

http://www.4atvtires.com/atvTires/showCategory.php?id=1

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Old 11-24-2010, 04:52 AM   #192
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Thanks for the info. They look to match fairly well except for the solid middle rim. Did they match the OEM rims exactly, was a tube required and what PSI do you use?

How many miles/kms did you get out of your OEM tires?
I am sorry, but I can´t answer all your questions. I converted my I2 to X2.
I bought Douglas Blue label wheels and the Maxxis 23x7-10.
I use different PSI´s, on the beach almost empty and when I glide on the
road 13 PSI or more.Where I live most roads and bicycle lanes are asfalt
roads. More PSI´s, the faster I go.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:40 AM   #193
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I am sorry, but I can´t answer all your questions. I converted my I2 to X2.
I bought Douglas Blue label wheels and the Maxxis 23x7-10.
I use different PSI´s, on the beach almost empty and when I glide on the
road 13 PSI or more.Where I live most roads and bicycle lanes are asfalt
roads. More PSI´s, the faster I go.
Since the factory x2 tires are 21 inch, do you find the 23 inch tires still fit under the x2 fenders?
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:36 PM   #194
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Since the factory x2 tires are 21 inch, do you find the 23 inch tires still fit under the x2 fenders?
Yes Pete, they fit easy and without a problem.
The tires do still have almost 1 inch space at the front of the fender
before they touch the fender.
I found all the tips and tricks from several people on the following thread,Wheel Measuring Question...

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The wheels that I found work perfectly are a 2n+3b, 10x7 spun aluminum ATV wheel. There are lots of these on the market, just find the lightest cheapest one available and it will work fine. The tires that I used were 23x7x10 (yes they will fit under X2 fenders just fine) Goodyear EMTs that I found very cheaply on fleabay.

Keep in mind all of this assumes you have the X2 fenders and mounting flanges already for the larger wheels. I converted my i2 and never looked back. It's MUCH better with the larger wheels, even in an urban environment (IMNSHO).

Many thanks again to Jim, as the information in this thread allowed me to put together a complete conversion package for ~$300 using a combination of new and used parts, as opposed to spending $200 each for a wheel and tire only on eBay. SegwayChat is the place to be to get the best information on Segways.
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Old 11-26-2010, 05:32 AM   #195
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Yes Pete, they fit easy and without a problem.
The tires do still have almost 1 inch space at the front of the fender
before they touch the fender.
I found all the tips and tricks from several people on the following thread,Wheel Measuring Question...
Ah, this is great to know. I recently bought a "kit" of x2 parts for my i2, and was wondering if a larger diameter tire would fit. Thanks for the information.
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:16 PM   #196
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I am sorry, but I can´t answer all your questions. I converted my I2 to X2.
I bought Douglas Blue label wheels and the Maxxis 23x7-10.
I use different PSI´s, on the beach almost empty and when I glide on the
road 13 PSI or more.Where I live most roads and bicycle lanes are asfalt
roads. More PSI´s, the faster I go.
Makes sense to use different PSI for different terrain. I do. Even though I have an X2, I mostly glide on asphalt and/or compacted pathways for my daily commute. Lower PSI provides comfort for my soon to be replaced hips though I pump 'em up when I have a long Glide ahead.

The only time I use the lower PSI, 4-6, is when I'm out in the woods with Roc Independence Maverick chasing birds or running in the woods for fun.
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:28 PM   #197
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Default PeteILB, thanks for the info. . .

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Here:

http://tinyurl.com/336fkrp

You'll find plenty of options for a variety of conditions ( trail, mud, snow, sand, etc), such as here :

http://www.4atvtires.com/atvTires/showCategory.php?id=1
Good luck with the conversion.

I'm gathering from your post that I should look for 21x7x10, though the response from "Ed65" suggests that a 23" tire will fit. Not to get into all of the SPEED questions on SegwayChat but shouldn't a 23" vs. the OEM 21" increase top-end speed at the expense of low-end torque? (Your previous posts suggest an expertise in evaluating numbers, so I felt the freedom to ask, forgive me if that is not the case).

Does the 21x7x10 fit the OEM rim with or without a tube? Frankly, I don't even know if my current Segway OEM has a tube. Does it? I appreciate your response. Thanks.
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Good luck with the conversion.

I'm gathering from your post that I should look for 21x7x10, though the response from "Ed65" suggests that a 23" tire will fit. Not to get into all of the SPEED questions on SegwayChat but shouldn't a 23" vs. the OEM 21" increase top-end speed at the expense of low-end torque? (Your previous posts suggest an expertise in evaluating numbers, so I felt the freedom to ask, forgive me if that is not the case).

Does the 21x7x10 fit the OEM rim with or without a tube? Frankly, I don't even know if my current Segway OEM has a tube. Does it? I appreciate your response. Thanks.
The factory x2 tire is a tubeless 21x7-10. As you mentioned, a 23" diameter tire will increase the top speed, and probably reduce torque somewhat, probably negligible.
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Electric motors have more torque at low end than at the high end.
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Electric motors have more torque at low end than at the high end.
I guess I meant that the physical response of a larger diameter tire to the same torque value or torque limit might be less.
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