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sitseg · 12-21-2014, 11:57 AM

I plan on looking more into this issue over the next few weeks, but;

I still have not seen any NEW ,during 2014, change published in the Federal Register.

I have seen no change in 49 CFR * regarding the 25 gram limit or total battery weight limit. They are still UN class 9.

I have not seen a waiver by the "Director" on this issue.

Any of the above changes would convince me that there was a change in Federal Law.

IATA is a trade association, and any press release or publication it releases DOES NOT change Federal Law. A mistake in perception and wording may have happened. Some new mobility devices, Wheelchairs and scooters are using lithium batteries that fall within the 49 CFR * requirements.

Page 16 of the IATA publication show an Australian dangerous good notice that would still require a segway size lithium to be transported as hazmat.
Page 24 of the same publication, speaks of mobility aids with Watt-hour ratings as high as 700Wh.

A lithium polymer at 700 Wh will/can meet the <25gram and total battery weight requirements. The Segway Lithium is 765.44Wh. It exceed the 25 gram and total weight limits, as it has since the promulgation of the rules.

I don't believe IATA took Segways into account when issuing this blanket assertion. They may issue a clarification when made aware of the specs.

I think Segs4Vets, DRAFT, should not notify segway recipients until the issue is clearly stated by a US regulatory body.

If you want to discuss the issue, call my cell.

12-21-2014, 11:57 AM	#5
sitseg Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: , , . Posts: 27	Skeptical - Still researching I plan on looking more into this issue over the next few weeks, but; I still have not seen any NEW ,during 2014, change published in the Federal Register. I have seen no change in 49 CFR * regarding the 25 gram limit or total battery weight limit. They are still UN class 9. I have not seen a waiver by the "Director" on this issue. Any of the above changes would convince me that there was a change in Federal Law. IATA is a trade association, and any press release or publication it releases DOES NOT change Federal Law. A mistake in perception and wording may have happened. Some new mobility devices, Wheelchairs and scooters are using lithium batteries that fall within the 49 CFR * requirements. Page 16 of the IATA publication show an Australian dangerous good notice that would still require a segway size lithium to be transported as hazmat. Page 24 of the same publication, speaks of mobility aids with Watt-hour ratings as high as 700Wh. A lithium polymer at 700 Wh will/can meet the <25gram and total battery weight requirements. The Segway Lithium is 765.44Wh. It exceed the 25 gram and total weight limits, as it has since the promulgation of the rules. I don't believe IATA took Segways into account when issuing this blanket assertion. They may issue a clarification when made aware of the specs. I think Segs4Vets, DRAFT, should not notify segway recipients until the issue is clearly stated by a US regulatory body. If you want to discuss the issue, call my cell.