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vingale 07-10-2010 09:28 AM

new segway won't charge
 
I just got an i2 -have been charging it for 8 hrs now and the battery is still showing red - is the battery defective?

bruneje 07-10-2010 09:47 AM

No , but for more information follow this link

http://www.spinfoot.com/SegwayBatteryFAQ.html#1.1

Bruneje

bud01234 07-10-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruneje (Post 207637)
No , but for more information follow this link

http://www.spinfoot.com/SegwayBatteryFAQ.html#1.1

Bruneje

That link appears to be for nickle batteries (Gen1).

If his gen2 liOn battery is showing red, it likely is defective. A trip to the dealer to find out what is going on is probably a good idea.

btw, if it's a new machine then your 1-yr warrnty will cover replacement.
if it's over 1yr old, then hope for the best.

KSagal 07-10-2010 07:49 PM

There are lots of things that could also be involved with a new purchase.

1. A new purchase should go right back to the seller, let them worry about it.

2. A new to me purchase is a different story.

3. Common on early gen one machines is that the power cord would not plug into the socket on the segway deep enough (The rubber molded shoulder of the plug would hit the socket walls) and people often thought there were charging problems when it really was not plugged in.

I have not heard of this so much on gen 2 machines, but a small obstruction in the socket, or a bad cord would give the same situation, or potentially could.

4. Batteries, as suspected may be bad

5. Charger on the segway may be bad

6. A whole assortment of other things may be at play.

I found it impossible to conclude a specific answer to the OP question from the information provided. If others could, they are smarter than me.

bud01234 07-12-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSagal (Post 207645)
There are lots of things that could also be involved with a new purchase.

1. A new purchase should go right back to the seller, let them worry about it. btw, if it's a new machine then your 1-yr warrnty will cover replacement

2. A new to me purchase is a different story. if it's over 1yr old, then hope for the best.

3. Common on early gen one machines is that the power cord would not plug into the socket on the segway deep enough (The rubber molded shoulder of the plug would hit the socket walls) and people often thought there were charging problems when it really was not plugged in. I didn't address this since he specifically said it's a gen 2

I have not heard of this so much on gen 2 machines, but a small obstruction in the socket, or a bad cord would give the same situation, or potentially could. Doubtful. If it's not getting power then the red light would NOT come on when, ahem... charging.

4. Batteries, as suspected may be bad - If his gen2 liOn battery is showing red, it likely is defective.

5. Charger on the segway may be bad - are we talking about Gen 1 again?

6. A whole assortment of other things may be at play. Always a possibility

I found it impossible to conclude a specific answer to the OP question from the information provided. If others could, they are smarter than me. If his gen2 liOn battery is showing red, it likely is defective. That's a specific answer???

(above underlines are quoted from my original post.)
I don't see where we disagree on anything other than you reading a specific reply where I intended it to be general; especially since I've experienced the exact same problem with a red light/bad battery. I also agree that we need more info as to age of the unit and if it's a used unit.

KSagal 07-12-2010 08:52 PM

Hey Bud, calm down.

I was responding to the OP, not to you or your post. There was no reason to try to take mine apart, as if I was contradicting yours. In fact, I was mostly agreeing with you in both diagnosis and suggested action (like return to the seller)

By the way, although I was not thinking of any specific reply when I answered the OP, upon reflection, you may want to look at post #2 in this thread. 'No' is a pretty specific response.

If you don't like me or my posts, get in line.

I am just suggesting that it is not worth getting all worked up about.

Be happy. You will likely live longer, and if not, at least you will be happy.

J. Dale Himebaugh 07-12-2010 10:51 PM

Karl, I like the way you think.
 
Karl, I like the way you think. Nice amd analytical. Have you ever (if you haven't already) created a checklist of the basic challenges that might occur on a Segway, especially those that are new to Seg-life like me. You could do a great service to the Seg-community.

Bronco_6

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSagal (Post 207645)
There are lots of things that could also be involved with a new purchase.

1. A new purchase should go right back to the seller, let them worry about it.

2. A new to me purchase is a different story.

3. Common on early gen one machines is that the power cord would not plug into the socket on the segway deep enough (The rubber molded shoulder of the plug would hit the socket walls) and people often thought there were charging problems when it really was not plugged in.

I have not heard of this so much on gen 2 machines, but a small obstruction in the socket, or a bad cord would give the same situation, or potentially could.

4. Batteries, as suspected may be bad

5. Charger on the segway may be bad

6. A whole assortment of other things may be at play.

I found it impossible to conclude a specific answer to the OP question from the information provided. If others could, they are smarter than me.


KSagal 07-13-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Dale Himebaugh (Post 207689)
Karl, I like the way you think. Nice amd analytical. Have you ever (if you haven't already) created a checklist of the basic challenges that might occur on a Segway, especially those that are new to Seg-life like me. You could do a great service to the Seg-community.

Bronco_6

Bronco,

I am more a reactive guy, than a type that tries to predict what may happen in different situations. There are many on this forum who offer up the kind of information you suggested, and much of their information is quite valid.

You should not overlook the documentation from the factory, both that came with the machine, and on their websites and blogs. All good information.

Lastly, I am often here on this forum, and will gladly respond to questions posted, or sent via Private Message, at least as much as I can.

Thanks for the acknowledgement.

bud01234 07-13-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSagal (Post 207685)
Hey Bud, calm down.

I was responding to the OP, not to you or your post. What's an op?

If you don't like me or my posts, get in line. I really do like you and think you're in the top 5 posters on this board. That's why I was surprised at what I perceived as a negative response to my post. Glad I was wrong.

Be happy. You will likely live longer, and if not, at least you will be happy.

Karl,

I've already lived longer than I expected to and as long as my segway keeps on keeping on, I'll always be happy.

Bud

KSagal 07-13-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bud01234 (Post 207699)
Karl,

I've already lived longer than I expected to and as long as my segway keeps on keeping on, I'll always be happy.

Bud


1. When I say 'op' or 'OP' I am referring to the Original Poster or Original Post.

2. I am glad this little mis-understanding is cleared up.

3. I read years ago a plaque that said “ Time spent sailing is not deducted from your lifespan”.

4. I prefer to apply the same sentiment to segways. Time spent gliding is not deducted from your lifespan.

5. For my sake, I hope time spent driveling on and on at this message board is not either;)


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